IvanBartul13

Should be 4 man bench 20 rotations per quarter with four extra benchings clubs can use for injuries from which the benched player cannot return

That height weight ratio will be wrong - Marschall is quite a big unit - he is a good kick and and strong. Strictly a half-bank flank or defensive winger. He is a very straight line robotic type player and whether he has the agility and ball handling to play AFL will decide whether he makes it or not and whether he gets drafted.

Admittedly, McKenzie is a very limited player with ball in hand but in the early stages of the season he was regularly subduing the oppositions best player and would be right up with the B+F voting early on. Going forward that will be his role as well as being a factor in contested ball situations. He hasnt had a preseason from memory, so there is a bit of upside with him. He's never going to be flashy and his distribution will always be iffy, but he's potentially one of the better shutdown midfielders going around - just needs some class around him to offset his limited offensive skills.

Fact as of last year

Agree Williams is actually starting to show something after an illness marred campaign. Weeks is good player and definitely worth rookieing, but he doesnt want to play AFL football, he is satisfied with his couple of thousand a game from his country side and working on his farm.

Utter garbage mate - Cook had a virus early in the week, missed early training sessions. They were never going to pick him without a proper preparation.

Definitely Strawbs above but who is below?

http://www.theaustra...y-1226305683665 Its Steve O'Dwyer above Febey.

just wondering if anyone whose seen the photos of Jimmy's wake at the Middle Park Hotel on Page 2 of the H-Sun could tell me who it is looking down on the far left under Steve Febey?

Stretch shirked a contest and was tarred by that, but at his best was a very, very good player. If he was on our current list and at at his best he would probably be the best player we would have.

Jason Norrish - but he missed.

Surely if the chairman says the injury to Dangerfield (who has a history of risking head and a glass jaw) is not relevant, that at least gives the tribunal at least some cause to reconsider the points associated with high impact, then it just becomes the issue of the mechanics of the tackle and whether it was dangerous. WJ, I agree with your sentiments to an extent, but if the club deems an injustice to have occurred surely it must seek every avenue to defend its player?

One of the interesting things about the points accrued in the charge is that it is assessed as high contact. Correct me if im wrong but Trengove doesnt contact Dangerfield high, the ground does. Could be a legal avenue.

I agree with Mr Morton that Jones' tweet is rubbish. The sentiment of it is fine, but it's a bad look for the club, its immature coming from a leader and quite frankly I'd be surprised if someone who could write something that inarticulate would actually know anything about the slain figure. Its just populist crap.

Good Stuff, WJ, think its also worth noting how close or rather the opportunity Melbourne had to secure David Wirrpanda as well during the Fremantle concession era. Had Darren Kowal been let go to the Dockers, Wirrpanda would have been a Demon.

Not sure anyone can say its fair that they can target and take Murphy or anyone else for that matter, but clearly there is a snatching a baby out of a pram scenario here and it is more raw. Free Agency in American football ensures that teams get free acess to sign their young players at the end of their first contract and it's pretty clear the AFL has been naeve to not do the same in this instance. If when free agency comes into play the AFL follows the same path as the NFL and does not allow young players to become free agents after their first contract, then to lose Scully will be totally bizarre. The article is absolute nonsense. Mentioning White and insinuating that Melbourne has had this coming is ridiculous. We traded White for what he was worth after homesickness decreed that he leave Fremantle and return home. Had we not secured White we would have drafted Brad Ottens. You could argue Ottens would have yielded a similar output to White, who knows. In preceeding years, Richmond put a massive price on Darren Gaspar's head and stole him from Sydney through the pre-season draft, where the Swans got nothing. Gaspar was taken pick two, Melbourne (not being able to afford or accommodate Gaspar's salary) drafted the delisted Craig Nettelbeck. You could argue that it is fair given this history for Richmond to lose Dustin Martin to GWS. Carlton sniped Nick Stevens and you can go on and on. We lost Farmer for less than market value. Phelan's notion that Scully is not in the same echelon as players GC poached is nonsense as well. His market value has proven that the AFL environment thinks he is. He is effectively valued at $1 million per year. Then he goes on the bleed about Adelaide's tale of woe and their loss of Nathan Bock. The Crows are privately pleased to have lost him following issues with his spouse and his irredeemible thirstyness and Walker lived on the SA border and they gave nothing to get him and had free access to him basically. It's just a rubbish article.

Campbell was used a few times by the Hawks as a full-back. Im pretty sure he played on the Neitz and Barry Hall types at various stages.

I think people talking about Lucas Cook being taken too early are off the mark. Here is a player that's been through the elite player programs and identified as an immense key position talent for a very long time and has capped that off with an All-Australian under 18 championship selection this year. Obviously the club bypassed Smedts and Atley who were the obvious two that slid past, along with perhaps Jayden Pitt, but to me there weren't players taken that are demonstratively better players than Cook, who at 196cm has the ability to really work from the CHF position to make contests, pressure ball carriers, but also take contested marks and kick goals. Dont think he is like Watts at all, more a traditional key forward, with a workmanlike bent to his game. He also has the tools to play CHB as well. Long term - Watts, Jurrah, Cook look a multidimensional, harmonious potential key forward mix. Haven't seen Howe play but I dont think he's a Robertson type going from the videotapes, just has the ability to jump and take a hanger, but looks to have a bit of X-factor, but also a bit of balance and poise about himself. Seems decent insurance for Jurrah.

Perhaps its more a case of them playing seniors this week and giving them a swansong. Surely also the knowledge they are delisted will allow them a chance to be watched by clubs during the VFL finals with them being on the market. Might not necessarily affect anyone negatively, though I concede it your scenarios could be right and that would be disappointing.

Disgrace is far too firm a language. Maric played well but at the end of the day McDonald, Moloney and Trengove were always going to demand a game and some unlucky players miss out.

Before my time, but Alan Rowarth was apparently a fair player, very under-rated!

Perhaps but I think he was in the gun after last week, along with Miller and a few others. Morton has been coasting in a footballing no man's land for much of his career to date and the club's usage and coaching of him is probably to blame. Last week he was pretty poor and basically he doesnt do anything apart from working hard to find space and then being a link in a chain. To be good playing that type of game your skill level and pace and run have to be elite and he doesn't provide that. I think the club needs to find him a solid role, whether it be as a match up defender, a mobile tall forward or an out and out traditional wingman, because as a floating rebounding defender he is of very little benefit to the team, and that's to say nothing of the area he really needs to lift in and that is being able to contest physically at AFL level, requiring an upgrade in his courage or application of courage and more pure physical strength.

Just remember had Simon Black not played against us earlier this year, we would have won by 20 goals. The Tigers beat Brisbane without Black and Brown. A great effort no doubt, but nothing with which to make concrete assertions about and certainly nothing with which to have a go at Bailey about.

If theyre breaching the cap this year, what else can they do.

pretty good mate, had a couple of chuckles.