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Assuming Whelan and Wheatley are unavailable B: Frawley Warnock Bartram HB: Garland Rivers Grimes C: Buckley McLean Green HF: Morton Miller Davey F: Johnson Bate Sylvia Foll: Spencer Bruce Rov: McDonald I/c: Wonaeamirri Petterd Jones Moloney EM: Martin Dunn Jetta

Francis goes alright, good effort player but he also has a bit of poise and moves well, would be a very good rookie pick up, but again not the size that many are clamouring for.

Sam O'Sullivan's a medium sized utility, generally played through the middle, wing and flanks for the Chargers - decent pace and an OK user of the ball.

He;s not really that left-field been well regarded in Qld for a while and may won the Junior footbalelr of the year award last tyear i think. Very quick wingman.

I commentate Molan regularly in the WRFL and he was an AFL talent, has a high skill level for such a big, strong man, and still does some very impressive things, even though his body is clearly wracked with injury. One great thing was that that mark he talk in the GF to win Spotty the game was pretty much the only time he has leapt off the ground in his two years, was a great mark and just showed his will to get his team over the line. I really think people that bag the pick and Molan are being completely hindsight driven and not being particularly fair to either player or recruiter, he never had a chance.

Liam Bedford's not a bad player

An interesting aside, O'Keefe played a couple of games for our reserves at full forward many moons ago.

free agency cant destroy the game if its accompanied by a draft and salary cap

And another thing is that we have pick one in the PSD and the AFL by extension are seeming interfering against the benefit we get from holding that pick, i.e swallowing the best uncontracted player that slips through the trade period net. I dont understand what Carlton's problem is, they can put a price on his head in the PSD anyway, but the actions of the AFL are extremely curious.

I find it ridiculous that the AFL sees fit to intervene in these processes, but Fremantle has every right to demand pick 6 on the following basis - how can Carlton value Warnock as good enough to warrant a $400,000 contract and yet only be offering a second round pick. If you assume Judd is on $1,200,000 a year - I dont know if he is but its possible - then logically it follows that the trade bounty WCE received for Judd, the Dockers should get a third of that which at least equals a highish first round pick. Carlton cant have it both ways, indicating he is a platyer of great value by dint of the what they will pay him, but then offer pick 24 in exhange.

There are plenty of players with good foot skills that aren't on the list youve posted above, your rating of the draft is poor, it's fine.

Watts is a fantastic athlete, but I believe they will actually struggle to fit Naitanui's leaping tests within their measurement scale.

I rang the Players Assoc this morning, referred to Nathan Carroll but not the incident and asked if the AFL Players Assoc would have philosophical problems supporting a footballer in a contract dispute if the root issue was racism related. Their media representative would only say the AFL have a code of conduct that governs racism related matters and that through that structure the player can be punished accordingly. I asked whether there were conditions upon which a contract could be annulled for matters not written into a contract if they were racism related. Upon which, the media man, retrod the above line. I guess the problem the Players Assoc have is that they have a duty to care to the player, I think that has to be unconditional. I would argue that the Players Assoc should exercise this duty by ensuring that Carroll receives mentoring/help to deal with the social issues that he obviously has and to assist him with this future, but should not assist him in evading the consequences of his actions to date, i.e the contract. This is going to be an interesting case.

He's just a player, not particularly quick or skiful. He runs into the right areas and does some good things, but there's nothing about him to suggest he would help us that much. He benefits from playing for Geelong, Shannon Byrnes looks good for Geelong and is ordinary. I'd rather us try and get Liam Bedford.

We are dead as a club if we trade for Prismall, an extraordinarily over-rated player.

Not a bad effort mate, you need to tidy the order up a bit though, the 9-12 picks are mixed up. I doubt Suban will go as high as 7. If you swap Suban and Yarran youre looking a bit better.

He wouldnt get a game anywhere and he shouldnt get a game here either, but if Port, who were very interested in Bell as a junior, have some degree of interest that still hasn't been eroded, that is far more likely to be retained by solid performances at Sandy than by obvious displays of notuptoitness at senior level.

My point is why trample on the graves of those players' careers with your comments. It doesnt matter what we do, the overall skill level of the players is unsatisfactory to be a successful team and those old players deserve to at least enjoy a sendoff and I would much rather watch Yze do the odd silky thing amongst his faults and to watch Holland's decrepid frame try its heart out, than watch the putrescent attitude of Newton and the shambolic disposal the team, of which every player who cant use the football effectively by foot and make sound decisions should be purged. Had they kept Bell at Sandringham hidden we might have got something for him from an instudious club, instead other clubs will note that he has been torched by two players in the one game.

yeah thank god for that, joking aren't you. At least those four can play the game, unlike the utterly execrable Daniel Bell and Michael Newton, who battled it out for the worst game in AFL history today. The club needs to hide these players before their trade value completely disappears and playing the old stagers would help in that role. I think they'll leave them out to make sure we dont pinch a game unnecessarily.

When the ball is there to be won at ground level, it doesn't matter what is coming, the player should get down and get it and not run a thought process of 'he is bigger than me, I wont compete for the footy here,' or 'If I go here, I will get hurt, I won't go then.' Ricky Petterd was a thoroughly fearless player in his early games and Cameron Hunter, half the size of Morton, was very hard at it. He is a very highly skilled player and a good and promising one, but he definitely needs to improve in this area. "When it's your turn" is the number one golden rule of footy in my opinion Hopefully extra size gives him the confidence to do that, otherwise he is going to be embarrassed and to be honest I wouldnt tolerate shirking from a team-mate or a player I was coaching, happy to give the benefit of doubt in terms of his age and size and playing against men, but it is concerning.

Im more concerned by the fact that he doesn't put his head over the football when it is his turn.

I'd be surprised if he didnt make the top 20, but prob have to see his testing to know, cause I thought he looked a pretty good, well-rounded forward with a bit of x-factor

Yze is probably listed on the bench because Sandy didn't know in time who Melbourne's emergencies were? Look out for Barlow, could be a possible draftee from Werribee

Think Weetra should be delisted and re-rookied

Bear in mind as well, Axis, that Fevola was selected in a draft when only one 17yo could be taken by each club, so in essence he was rated 8th from memory of his year group that year.