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Personal have no problems with Akers mouth.. or what he wrote.. i have much admiraiton for him as a player. That said it primes for serious bouquets to be thrown at Bell for his effrots. He eclipsed Aker. . Still a few questions exist for mine over Belly's decision making at times but he does seems to be getting better. His stature is growing.. Good on him.

For me the ledger is still in the red in regards Byron. Much faith 9 let alone money ) has been invested. i want to sereal returns, not 'passages ' of play...good that they were, a handful of 'top' efforts does not a season make.

That was a much beeter effort from the Byronator..Still some way to go to justify the money...This particular jury member is still out!!

always amuses me that players seem beyond reproach !!. They're paid professionals. We are entitled to critique, especially if you're a member and as such contributed towards their keep !! The thread was entitled..Adem Yze.. so we talk about...guess what..Adem Yze...not about maybe some other players who also might deserve attention. We owe ??? No other way round...he gets paid...he owes to the payer !!

I think many people will be tempted to get a little caried away from last nights win. It was a WIN, there is no doubt, but against ??. Still you make your luck etc. A few players that have been a little...umm...awol , this year returned for the event. Happy to have them back. it all goes to show how much attitude and application goes doesnt it . Some of our handpassing skills are still kindergarten. Som eof our foot passing ought to be named the "Victa" pass !!. The skills werent silky by any shake, but they were better. The thinking was better.. None of it brilliant. we can be brilliant. We still have a long way to go. The best way I can sum up that game really is that whilst no fires were blazing its good to see live embers to feed the flames of 2008 !!

ok ok....who are they ....and what have they done with the real Melbourne ?? lol. A tad different wasnt it Noticed quite a few playing away form their normal field of endeavours. Must have been a dozen Robbo's, saw him all over the ground !! I definitely think they played into our hands to a large degree. Once they were rattled it wa s bit llike cow-tipping !! They like us were without a few of their guns.. and they went erratic. They lacked height. They werent able to match up well. Not sure if that was so much Riley or Rocket not having the ammunition. I wont take anything away from a great win. We were hard at the ball, played in front where posible and as someone else has mentioned somewhere else played for each other. The spirit was back :-) Dutchy you beaudy !! hehe Newton just gets better. maybe Dunn is suited to the wing.. a very inboard winger if that makes sense We arent there by a long way but it was good to see.. its good to WIN !! :-) onya Dees !!

r and b rasies the clincher to all this.. the result of trade week/ drafting. Though it will undoubtedly be a recognisable Demons that take the field there is bound to be a few surprises. I think we have to be quite brazen this year at trade week and brutal in our ajudication of where some players 'are' and what they might offer going forward. Invariably you dont get anything for nothing, so in order to get a better mix, a better balance and possibly a new look we wil have to say sayonara to someone. The appointmetn of the new coach and subsequent crytal ball gazing will give more flesh to this. Ought to be interesting.. I can see some fans getting a little miffed...and others quite excited. Gotta love footy !!! lol

well.. short of a time warp Adem wont be playing his 300th any time soon. I would doubt that his career will last long enough to take that accolade. Simply because hes at the business end of his career and his body aint going to cash them cheques any longer !! Thats just reality whether your a pro or disinterested observer. For me Ooze represents so much about the plight of Melbourne, 5 mins of limelight and pizaz is accompanied by 55 mins of dross and heartache. So many parallels can be drawn to the way Adem went about his work as has the club in general. The standards applied, the expectations, the failures and dissapointments. Not for one moment accusing ooz of causing the predicament but hes surely a cast member as much as anyone who's played through the ND years. The bar simply hadnt been set high enough. Work ethics were lip -service excuses too easily rolled out and mediocrity not only tolerated but by lack of punishment effectively rewarded. given we WILL have a new coach next year and can only assume that the expectations wil be written in blood and no largese taken then Ooze will not fit in, he wont be alone. Oozes best is now behind him, what he has left to offer I dont think wil be substantial enough to push aside on any permanent basis one of the new breed young guns. He might do well to broker a deal with the club and go out with head held reasonably high, before the game passes him by . I dont mean ill will towards the bloke...but my real concern is for the club going forward. Unfortunately for Adem I would suggest the person responsible for much of the scorn and criticisms leveled at him is none other than himself. We can only call them as we see them !!

On song Ooze is quite mecurial. Undoubtedly talented he plays to an audience. I really cant see him taking too much of centre stage any longer. A new coach, new kids, new culture..... If Danners read the writing on the wall then Adem might do well to take a good look also. Hes a bit like having the icing without the cake. He's had his time in the sun, its as simple as that, and the icing's melted a bit too.

damn ...must have missed that game B)

apparently having an affinity for martians puts you out of normal human categories !! :D

Adem who ?? did he play for us once ??

The MFC has one agenda. The AFL has another. There ARE some areas of commonality and the MFC should seek to drive that mileage as far as possible. I would imagine Harris and Co are thinking of doing just that. No point concerning ourselves with what might be...just what IS !! and work with that. Ought to be a cracker of a year.. Cant wait

I dont think anyone here or elsewhere ever doubted the calibre of the bloke. Top fella; was just the coaching that confounded us at times etc. I and many other always wished him the best. Stilll do. Hopefullly not 'too' much success at Essendon *wink*

Amazing...how quick some are to rush to judgement...all from the safety of their keyboards.. how lamentable some realities please., EPO is extremely hard to detect unless you are consistenly vigilant. i.e A determined and orchestrated drug policing strategy. Otherwise yo will go scott free. The AFL has none. It doesnt want one. the AFL has its head in the sand re drugs in its backyard. It doesnt want to find them, the consequences and headaches that would enchew are just too much for a simple nimwod like Demitriou to confront. Much easier to push it away whilst feigning lip service to it all. Say you ARE a professional AFL player and you know somethig is not kosher... why wouldnt you draw attention to it. Aker DIDNT mention names, not publicly at least. it was a scenario, a scenario well worth investigating. What may or may not have transpired has nothing to do with whether a player has an ego or not. he had th eballs to say something isnt right. Kudos to that. If you dont agree with the player thats all.. The rule of "silence " pervades still throughout the AFL... dont you dare dob in anyone.. how unsporting !! etc. What exactly has Aker said.. im more amazed at whom and why are circling fro his beheading . Id be looking to whom 'protests too much !! " Anyone who believes the AFL is drug fee is delusional. it would then be the only mainstream code in a country not to be..and thats likely isnt it ?? lol Yes Aker is a loud out opiniated egotistical opportunist but what has that got to do with the substance of his concern. Play the ball not the man people !!

hang on...i'll just go consult the Martians !!

my understanding is we will make a smallish pfit 2-250,000..instead of the forecast 750000 - million. Caro would say we're in trouble when you consider her bucket of dead fish club !!! lol We are nt as rosey as we'd like to be, but its all mamageble; unlike previous eras where we'd be panicking right now. Its just a poorer show than previously hoped for...not wrist slitting time anymore.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/com...5E20322,00.html In a year of ...well cr@p !! some fantastic and heartening news. Ricky's back on track. Dont rush yourself ...but get back as soon as you can lol. Looking forward to your dash and bravado again in 2008. good to see ya back kid !!

I also heard it as."in a month"

Yep you covered it pretty well I thought Harris was sufficiently circumspect. Of course he's not going to give anything away. Having just watched Essendon stuff up I bet he wasnt about to follow them down their path..lol. Thought it interesting that the journos wanteda different set of rules, hardly surprising though is it Was intereting that given some reporting had it Melbourne was supposedly ( well someone in the press was anyway..lol ) concerned about Sheedy's age going forward and as to how this fits with the Dees, that this wasnt put point blank to Harris. Kinda interesting Harris's comment that Fagan had never spoken to Voss, put Caro on the back foot..lol. Also thought very relevent Pert's comment that the media were drivng football agenda and not the clubs. somehow this seemed lost on the journos. Very insular really are journos in their appreciation of how they fit into things and their accountability. Seemed all very Headline front page; retractions on page 43 didnt it !! The Duck impresses me more and more with his intuition and knowledge of the game. Certainly more than the fool that sits next to him

To suggest hes amongst our best is no great achievement this year...is it ?? lol Amongst our best goal kickers, DITTO !! No one at this point of a career is ever beyond a 'good' trade. The team is more than him etc. Like anyone in the red and blue they ought to prove their worth..well oughtn't they ?

Norm had great inital success ..1969 got the Swannies to 9th..then the next year really ramped them up.. Into the finals with a 4th. went a little belly up after that. Dont know if you would ascribe that all to Norm or the club as a victim of the then zoning etc.

Well..the Football dept does seem to be run by Dr "NO"

Given the way melbourne goes about its sentiments they will proably have him lining up next to Neeta on his 300th. They can share a pair of crutches. Our finances might stretch that far !!

Its so uncomplicatedly straightforward in both requirements and outcomes that it beggars belief that its not being done The club must be waiting for the "right " conditions. God knows what they are, 5 mins to armageddon maybe !!