bush demon

I don't get the 85% fit bit. What about new recruits, or players from other clubs. Are they all one/two years off the pace as well. It's part of the culture that says give up on winning games because we will win them in the future.

You mean Greg? Gerard made his mind up about the demons a long time ago.

Which of you guys wouldn't take the stupendous money on offer in his position? Left out of this discussion is the role of KS who has wasted a big pile of GWS's shopping money just to exact some kind of payback on Melbourne for not appointing him coach.

If you can't have a scull on the Wino, have a sip on the viney down past the 'grove.

The clash strip dilutes the brand and the point of difference of teams such as ours. it's like the afl has ordered us to wear surrender jumpers whenever we are not the home team.

Not his family, anyway.

He is definitely opinionated but was a great player.

His selection was dubious and not merited.

Funny how Princes Park now being looked at as a boutique option. The league really stuffed up with concrete dome.

I think losing in Grand Finals is over-rated, esp in Collingwood's situation. Imagine if Melbourne had been to the well that many times since Ron jumped ship. I was reading the other day that Bob Rose (Collingwood coach in the 60's) had been offered a huge sum to play in the bush in the 1950's but knocked it back out of loyalty to Collingwood, where he was on a pittance. In the case of the '64 grand final we won but lost, with Ron becoming a football mercenary and tragic Bob going on to make history for successive grand final and finals losses until their breakthrough flag in 1990. The pies have been a finals team all through the modern era whereas we have been scratching around the cellar. All that history helped forge Collingwood's current identity, whereas our club well and truly left the building the moment after Barassi let go of the premiership cup.

Hawthorn (dirty football team in the 70's/80's: Matthews on Giles, Smith. Dippa on Flower. Essendon (Sheedy hubris/ Wallis Long incidents in 2000 grand final) West Coast (a corporate franchise not a football team)( don't mind Swans (esp since Healey got stitched up in '87 finals series Geelong (play an attractive brand of football and represent a local area) don't care Greater Western Sydney Greater Western Suns

Hey Demonland, as a member of this site since about 2000, I am happy to make a subscription, don't get disheartened this is a fantastic site. Pls forward direct debit BSB, Acct No. etc and I will sign up. \ BD (since '63)

One Cascade Light, $4.00. No catty comments, now.

I got some video footage too but it was too boring to edit, compress and upload!

no 13 Dave DeAraugo

How do I make the pictures bigger? Am choosing optimum size but when I upload it only creates thumbnails.

Boys at 3/4 time.

Went to Casey with a fellow Demonlander I had never met. Again, a great venue for these kind of matches. Port supporters quite spiteful, banging on about 'tankers'. Small beer though. Jordy a class above most of his teammates, and ...not scrappy, but uses the ball well. This folk legend may be true at AFL level but certainly sets up play well today. Sam Blease classy as well and still putting on the after burners. Hadn't seen Viney actually getting the pill before today but this game was enough to put down the glasses, this guy gets his own pill and takes it with him. Very, very happy with this draft choice. Mitch got no delivery from the midfield and looked good with a few half-chances. Did his party trick of flying one handed on several occasions. He took one very good mark in the first quarter from a one-handed stop which he marked with the other hand. i think that was his goal. Trenners did some good link work but didn't really see him do a lot. Mitch and Trenners went off a few minutes before stumps, Mitch in bare feet over the concrete with a small ice bag in one hand, precautionary no doubt. Casey's new coach, Rohan Welch is a meaner dude than Brett Lovett! I bet he will ark up. Always impressed with the analysis that goes on in the line groups at 1/4 and 3/4 time. First, between the players then the line coaches. Was played in a practise match mindset , noone appeared too down with the result. Despite the result, another good day out at Casey Fields.

Kyle Mathews comes off for a spell. And no one on bench. "Where is everyone?" He says. Some smart guy says they're all in the showers. Siren. 19.12 to 8.14

Pot miss easy goal spray it.

Mitch and Trenners off for day.

Goal coming up for Casey. Long time between drinks. 19.10 to 8.10

Goal to port after strong pack mark.

16.7 to 7.8. Port got their run back.

Another easy port goal. Viney, clearance king.