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Agrre with nearly all of these, except for Danger (not exciting to see a bloke trying to kick it to himself) & Greene ( I want to watch footy not a sideshow, however I will admit he can play. What about Touk Miller ?

That is the problem with judging purely by stats. I can remember Paul Roos saying that Jeremy Howe played the best "no kick" half one game, just by the impact on the areas he was involved. Kossie is becoming a young Cyril in that he "creates expectation"because he is so quick in to the area. (However once he perfects his tackling, he will be extremely dangerous) . This created expectation leads to increased pressure insofar as disposal which occured in the first Q.( but no stat !) LIkewise TMacs strength for Sparrows goal. (Channel 7 commentators ignored his effort). The more I have seen the Finals (We actually beat the Bulldogs again last Saturday (according to Fox) even after beating Brisbane & Geelong. No wonder they were tired.), the more I have begun to appreciate Viney's efforts over the Finals. He created the space for Clarrie & Trac to show their stuff. The same can be said for Harmesy & Gus. A fantastic team approach. Question: How do you get the stats with "Pressure Acts" as distinct from 1% ? To be fair I feel that a lot of stats centre around disposals irrelevant to Effective disposal ( Can someone explain the actual criteria ) But thanks, Rusty Nails for the posts .,

Was there a prouder uncle in the land as James Brayshaw ??? He will be renowned for Bang, ....bang, bang ......bang !!!

I think a lot of people are having problems reconciling their prejudices towards some players (i.e. only think of any mistakes ) and accepting these blokes are now Premiership players, who have played probably the purest football you could imagine AGAINST the next best side in the competition ( not the 18th best) . Just think of Angus' efforts in the 3rd Q ( in fact over the whole final series) TMac's team effort and providing the big option when the first were covers ( plus his assistance for Sparrow's goal) ANB's imitation of a buzzing Bee throughout the finals Sparrows final series Spargo's ""football brain" Fritta's marking & kicking The improvement of Jacko, Rivers , Petty , Kozzie ( starting to play like Cyril in that If he is in the area ,watch out, which creates pressure) & Bowey. There is a lot of upside IF they keep the same attitude !!! ( which I am confident they will )

For some reason we tend to over rate players from other teams. In Sparrow we have : a Premiership player who has shown us all the way through the finals just how improved he was PLUS how well he handles playing against the top notch sides. We do not know how Cerra handles the pressure of finals. It is a bit like a test batsman who values making runs against the est Indies (1980's) vs DImboola B Grade.

and Tmac ....signed contract in last two weeks

I would never ever doubt JV's committment to MFC or his efforts . He has grown up with this Club and his capacity to change his instinctive style has led to his enormous value in the finals. I will bet the coaches will use video of his 1% (which by the way do not register on stats sheets) for a long time. Not every players can be a Trac or a Clarrie in their ability to handle the ball at such pace and stiill retain their balance. But part of it is the work that goes into creating the initial spce for them to accellerate out of. But that late surge in the 3rd Q has to rank as one of the great finals moments universally & ever. !!!

I have been a little critical of JV in that he had a very strong "see Ball Get Ball ............and keep ball" which restricted the flow of our game. This year , particularly latterly he has been the in & under getting the ball out (ala Liberatore) whic has added enormously to us. Plus CLarrie has changed in 12 months and is now " Elite"with his disposal & Super Elite with his general play.

An absolute gem of a player & clubman. Got himself back after delisting and was definitely the best small defender &team man for years. Has left nothing behind.

Congratulations to Ollie Wines. He would admit that he would swap it for a gig at the big dance. What is in the water @ Echuca. I always thought Clarrie came from Shepparton. Imagine going to play Echuca in the Junior Footy knowing Viney & Wines are waiting for you.

THey are not going to War . This a football match.

Well done Nathan Jones. You were a genuine FOOTBALLER. No 2 is a label of respect in MFC with Robbie Flower & Nathan. This purely about loyalty (and class) because bothe these blokes did the hard yards . Maybe the Club could honour the Number. Nathan struggled when he firt became Captain, but you could see that it was another challenge he accepted anddeveloped to being the heart & soul of the Club. Thank you.

Oh well we were Premiershi[p favourites for 24 hours. Both sides palyed thehir A+ Game over the weekend . It wiill be interesting qwho keeps their standard up will win.

Robbie Flowers Mark in the GOal Square and consequent goal to set things going against North in SF back in his last year. *0 THousand in the crows and 75 barracking for Dees so St Robbie Delivered. Jurrah's falling backward kick over his head. Did not realise hwo good until saw replays. T Mac ( vs WC in Perth)& Gawny's goal vs Geelong Take your pick after the Maximus Gawnus show on Freiday night.

And then we have to pay him ........probably overs . Probably Nathan Jones & Nev Jetta are close to retiring so that may give us $$ room, but.......Jackson, Rivers ,Jordon, Bowey ,Sparrow start to move into bigger kids $$$ We spend our time developing younger players e.g. Chandler, Sparrow, ANB, Jordon, Bowey , Rivers, Jackson and then just throw our development away for a "might be". Isn't it amazing that a player at another club is always better than what we have got . Our Midfield is the last area needing strengthening. ( Our 3rd best midfielder is playing on a wing, our ex Captain has modified his game to play compatible football inside our structure) Given the age profile (and upside ) of our current list there is a lot of improvement to come and this GROUP is compatible

He syill takes the 2nd big defender. Frees Fritsch and protects our crmbers more. This discussion is really a chance for some people to vent their prejudice. Even if he assisted 15 goals some people would complain that he did not kick them himself. He is part of a good structure that is working well. If part of your job is to lead away from other forward then he supplies team structure

Yes it will if you look past the individual stats and consider the "hidden impact"a player has.

Bit harsh on Smith . There are a lot of people who lose one on ones against CHarlie, But not many that can keep up with him (see the replay 3rd Q I think )

It is called confidence and that comes from 120% effort.

Absolutely rubbish. WHen Brownb marked have a look at who cleared the way. Stats are not everything.

1 : Max's skilful goal 2021 2 Robbie Flower coming onto the ground as 19th Man in the Reserves @ Victoria Park and a few weeks later playing with the big kids. 3 Robbie Flowers Mark and GOal in the Semi against North in the Semi (First of 5)

I must admit I have not been a Lever fan, but fair enough , the writing is on the board so really good for him and reflects the work he has put in. Stephen May has been our Defence Leader and is a gun. He and Jake combine really well PLUS he provides terrific support for our young defence. We forget that Trent RIvers is a second year player, Petty is realistically only in his first/second year of playing and young Bowey is a beauty but still a first year player. Christian Salem was a bit stiff, would have only come down to how far he kicks the ball cf Rich. I will accept the decision there without rancor. Oliver's mini highlights indicate how far he has improved this year (and he must put in a power of work to maintain his workload) Trac is class. Everyone at Melbourne looks up at Maxy. He has the group humming ( If only he could kick straight !!!(under pressure)) The thing about the AA nominations from MFC was that there are a lot of players not mentioned & who will never be mentioned BUT ARE INTEGRAL TO THE SIDE. And at times we are a little/hugely critical of some of them, but they provide the glue to enable the more gifted players to shine. Just think of Harmesy efforts against Libba the first time around, the cameos of Spargó & Kossie, The improvement of Jackson, Rivers , Jordon,Sparrow. Tmac's form has been a bonus this year because he and Fritsch carried the big blokes role in the fwd line for the first half of the year. The wingers club where Gus has put his ego to the side to be part of a special team and Langers has been a revelation. Can people remember ALL the players in the great Hawthorn , RIchmond and Brisbane sides !!! You could pick another AA side which would still be a sensational side. What a reward for Aliir Aliir and Bayley Dale who have made the big jump into "big kids"Territory

The players obviously respect her. After all she has been/is a legend of Women's Footy and has a brain. She was probably born 10 years too early. Imagine her coming into the current draft ( She would be a female Robby Flower) She at least asks Footy Questions/Issues, not the crap that comes out of some commentators (with Faux burnt tongues) mouths.

Who is Brian Taylor ???

Absolutely agree. We have done (and still doing) the development on these two blokes. Get real !!! Why trade down ????