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Surely we are trying to build a culture and Gus has a culture and attitude a lot of clubs would love. So why do people come up with such "questionable thought processes" The next proposal will be to trade Clkarrie because he handballs too much. Then we can m ove on Gawny and Weis because they are not really good set shots when the siren sounds. If everybody was perfect and the game was so easy, nobody would play it.

I hate to say this, but the statsd guide really fails to take into account the impact the player has. In this way I refer to Clarrie leading the rankings. On pure numbers he is streets ahead, but in effectiveness of his possessions/disposal I feel he is a big part of the problem in that his disposal via hanjdball at all costs is not enabling us to beak free. The same can be said of Jack V . We play a lot more effectively when the ball is cleared and Gus and Harmesy should be our targets to move the ball on as they are attacking midfielders rather than accumulators like Clarrie or stoppage people like Jack V. Question : Is Clarrie dual handed with his handballs, because I feel he is often handballing to his left (by his right hand) Bit too technical or wrong ???

I can guarantee TMac and Jones will NOT be dropped !! Lockart , maybe, but I feel he is learning his craft in the VFL. If we had an outside MId who can run like the wind, then Viney as small fwd and Spargs back to correct some issues. ( Although you cannot doubt his effort and courage.) OMac in as CHF

Apparently Trac is one of the leading "ground ball getters" in AFL. I think he is playing as an old fashioned HFF. THe problem is that he does not contirbute much in relation to keeping the ball in th Fwd line and he is not the only one. Furthermore I thought he was probably our best Fwd today. We mus get Fritsch and Salem to be our connectors into the FWD line. This time last year people were likening him to the great RF.

Salem : Got sore head Petracca : Strong at ground level Garlett, Spargo : Too many fumbles Harmes : Strong Competitive midfielder Brayshaw : Attacking Inside Mid Brayshaw : Tighten disposal Team : Only kick to space /Make them run into kick Hannan : Learn right foot Gawn : Great Great Great Hore : Find of Season Lever : Settled and survived May : Showed good promise Frost : Missed him (did not think I would ever say this) Oscar Mc : Cannot be blamed this week Clarrie : Three more blinks per disposal = massive improvement to side Tom Mc : Too many roles

I worry about Jack , because I reckon both he and Tommy Mac have sore feet !! He is nearly a liability in the middle now because he has misplaced the "oomph" factor he had twp years ago. We talk about lack of "grunt "in our forward line , yet we have an inside mid sitting outside in Gus. Why not play Jack as small fwd. After the first contested ball the opposition will know he is in the area. At the moment we are really not exhibiting enough pressure in locking the ball in. Put him in a confined area to learn and he could be a big asset to the team. We have inside mids already and unfortunately he is not in our top 4. To play as a small forward, you need to be quick or dangerous. If you are lucky and get a mixture of both we are laughing.

Bit harsh on Braysahw and Hore. We looked a lot more purposeful with Max, Clarrie, Gus and Harmesy around the ball.

11Gawn 4 Gus 3 Petracca 2 Harmes 1 Hore

Get the midfield of GAwn, Harmes, Clariie and Gus together and tell them to let rip. Confidence is a bid thing !!!

At least OMac cannot be blamed for today's effort. However the mob have turned on Tom, who is rucking part time, trying to play in defence part time and then in the Fwd line.

I thought he showed a lot of good movement and provided an option. The mark he took at the last was a pack mark.....pretty good under pressure, it is just that he did not finish it off otherwise we would be singing his praises. I can honestly see why he would be preferred to Preuss because of his capacity to play a game out. Preuss is there as a back up ruckman not as a second ruckman. For him to go from the first to the second he must develop his tank. Both Weid and Preuss are very youn g players in big bodies and need time to develop and condition themselves.

Thanks for spelling this out. Demonland people are entitled to express opinions, but once people get a player in the gun they go overboard in many cases. There are many cases where DL forums have "shellacked"players e.g Jack Watts , Marty Hore (after 1 game) ,Nathan Jones (yes it happens) . But I do not think a player has copped as much vitriol as OMac ,and the "angries at everything" are zeroing on on a scapegoat. Let's face it ,Oscar was a late draft choice so in the opinion of scouts ,he did not have the natural ability as the guns. He is only early 20's so his body is still maturing. (We make excuses for Sam W , same thing). He is in a position where he is often one on one so is exposed visually ,so it is easy to blame. He now gets blamed for punching the ball in the wqrong direction. If he is a spoiler, then what about the smaller bloke learning to crumb better, but then if they did they would get all the credit and the bloke who got it there would just be forgotten. I sincerely hope players do not read forums ,or else they would be frightened to play the game.

I feell that there was a giant lack of on field leadership in the last quarter. 3 goals 12 in the last half and most of those misses were set shots !!! Says a bit about the confidence (or lack of) in the side. Their ballgetting was great tonight and the mpvement into the fwd line was vastly omproved UNTIL ......last Qtr and then we went home . Gutted.

6 Gawn 5 Oliver 4 Bratshaw 3 Petracca 2 Harmes 1 LAck of Leadership

Çan anyone imagine GWS trading Cameron. I think he would be in the KAAC Bracket !!!!

How often do we see/hear when a kicker kicks to a space. And in a cohesive setup ,people know how to move into that space at the right time. We were doing that last year because we were "connected" . Too often currently either leads/spaces are ignored or a player kicks the ball and the supposed recipient is standing. Two things: NEVER kick to a bloke standing still Never stand still

Nothing against JKH, but Corey Wagner got 20 -odd possessions lasat week in a dfence that had no support further up the ground , so if that is getting lost, I hope we see him when he is found. He is a very inexperienced player 10 or so games. The same criticism was made of Marty Hore after his first game.

Agree with you wholeheartedly.. Players can improve. After the first round Marty Hore was branded as not up to it, another useless find to the club, only VFL standard etc. Now these knockers are saying we have found a new gun. Josh Wagner had only played 1 game with NM so he has upside, but he has a very important ingredient : ATTITUDE. Coaches lave people like that.

Bombing the ball means lack of connection . We would get more results by moving the ball into F50 with a bit of precision, rather than hoping someone will take a couple of contested pack marks.

To be fair, Adam SImpson (in todays paper) had a a word to Vardy saying that is not how to earn respect for himself and the Club. Still not a good look. Compare that with Jarrod Roughhead (who does not take a backward step) in his VFL Game last week passing on something to his oponent . No doubt some win at all costs people will poo poo it, but there is a bloke who treats the game with respect.

Agree on both points Therein lies a problem . Jack V needs to moce away from the costant crash & bash in the midfield, because we have Clarrie, Harmes, Gus and potentially Petracca who work more expansively /mobile in the midfield. By this I reckon they clear the area better. Brayshaw in particular is being played outside his specialist area. I fell that Jack V would be better as a small forward, who makes sure the ball remains in the fwd area because of the pressure he applies. THis will make it easier on his body and increase the defensive aspects of our Forwards.

Agree with you wholeheartedly. Somehow some posters find a whipping boy and nothing they do is given credit. I, too thought Oscar Mc D's game was good last night because he did a job he was selected to do. But no, we cannot give the kid any praise bwecause it seems as if "you" think it proves you wrong. We are t6oo quick to criticise and not quick enough to praise. If Petracca had kicked more accurately we would be singing praises today, because he has something special in his capacity to win 1 on 1 . Let us reward the kids who played their hearts out last night. When you think we had about 6 players with less than 10 games experience AND none of them were high draft picks, the effort level was great. GIve praise to the efforts of Marty Hore and Jade Lockart for persevering to get to this level and showing us that they CAN play. Yes, we can rail about the goalkicking ,umpiring etc. But that is part of he game and hopefully the rub of the green will come to us soon.

Agree wholeheartedly. I seems as if Gus has been given the shift to accomadate VIney. THe work of Oliver Gawn and Brayshaw last year gave us drive into the Fwd line. I feel Viney's best spot is as a small fwd. He woulkd have a few looking when he is in the area and would provide a scrap in the fwd line. Might preserve his body a bit more.. I f need be he could be slotted into the middle if things are not going well.

It is good to see a couple of "neglected"players bob up and are starting to adjust to the tempo. THey both seem to be learning each week. Locckart's last couple of weeks have been more productive in that he is gaining confidence and getting more of the ball. Marty Hore seems to be able to read the play and be in the right position a lot of the time. Great to see.