pitmaster

Normally I am in accord with you MS so I am surprised to find myself vehemently opposed to your ideas on this. Without a base, and without something that tells its story like a museum or a physical Hall of Fame, a football club, any sporting club, is just an idea. That's what we have been for years; a concept we carry around in our heads but with nothing physical to show for it. Seinfeld said sports fans are merely barracking for a shirt so when a player changes teams/clubs it's a matter of "Boo. Wrong shirt!" That's us, an idea represented by a shirt. I'd like something more.

Noted that. But Chapter 11 in the US is intended to enable companies to trade their way out of strife. It is not the end. Any car hire company is going to feel some pain under lockdown. Hopefully our Hertz can ride this out.

Tks.

Chunks' presser this afternoon has Zurich, Hertz, Jaguar...and Furphy ale as our sponsors. Any posters know when this was stitched up?

Met a mate in that cafe. It was jumping. Probably full of filth employees bludging but it was certainly turning a dollar. I suspect social clubs, like pubs have been hit by drink driving laws, but I think they have a place as long as they are part of a home base which should include a club museum along with admin offices. Having seen the Hawks museum, and the Bombers and the Pies halls of fame I can vouch for the fact they are very evocative and have real appeal to diehards. It's a shame we have nothing like that. Even Fitzroy has a space at Docklands given over to old Lions memorabilia. Those who attended Gutnick's fund raiser back in '96 would remember the Demons memorabilia in the old change rooms where that event took place. It was wonderful old stuff that is otherwise unseen. I reckon a home base, with a museum cum Hall of Fame, training and office base and social event spaces would still work, especially in the vicinity of the MCG because it is so well served by public transport. It would also give the players a sense of their place in history. Imagine story boards about the great unexpected victory of 1926, the arrival of Checker, the achievements of Bluey in the Battle of Britain as well as on the field, the other blokes lost in war, the Red Fox story board, the extraordinary achievement of two triple premierships, the indigenous Demons, the Northey and Daniher revivals...there is so much material to work with to make a brilliant museum and Hall of Fame that would be an enormous drawcard. That is a long winded way of saying I respectfully disagree.

Judgemental about other clubs? That's everybody. I have heard some Hooray Henry private schoolers among our supporters lording it over the Bulldogs in class terms which frankly gave me the sh&%s, but toothless Tiger supporters, drunken criminal Woodsmen, ratbag brawling Bombers supporters, snooty Hawks...I hear more of that from other clubs. Where did Jim say that?

Good effort. Where's the bar?

Silver Tails is such a falsity. We're one of the least financially able of the Victorian clubs.

Or Ooze. His game day strategist.

Settle down. Danny left in 2004 to become CEO of Athletics Australia. Posters get a little loose here from time to time. This one's a beauty.

He didn't say Blew was a cheat. That's a common misrepresentation. He said umpires are prone to favouring struggling teams as a human frailty. He actually suggested umpires are human. Go figure. Blew chose to make an issue of it but read Red Fox for the true story and to see what was really said. Blew cared so much that the case was never heard. Despite all that the board was a disgrace for not backing Smith.

i do believe you're onto it.

We didn't come to play...

Suffered some trouble with the law which was a shame. His injuries, debts all played into it I believe. Nickname: Piggy.

Aaaah BB, that old line. OK, Everyone’s entitled to an opinion. But not everyone’s entitled to claim some special authority for their opinion, and not all opinions are equal. First, this article appears under a picture byline on a specialty sports publication or section, just like professional writers like Mike Sheahan and Jake Niall. Now theroar is free and the writer may go unpaid for all we know, but in its presentation this opinion lays claim to authority, not just an opinion like you find on here, so it is judged more harshly. Second, its bold declarations (slow as treacle, cannot kick, one dimensional) are blunt, not supported by evidence and not qualified by descriptions of other attributes the player may have, such as in this case courage, determination, capacity to inspire team mates, and endurance, which you would expect to find in a considered piece. Third, it’s ignorant. Some of the game’s finest midfielders have been comparatively slow yet succeeded due to other positive attributes such as ability to win a contest and release a team mate. And it’s inaccurate. Viney simply isn’t that slow. In full flight he is a steam train. No, this isn’t just an opinion. It’s an amateurish grab for attention based on sweeping and unsupported statements. It’s the work of a try-hard. Let me also point out that his article appears with the word ‘Expert’ next to the writer’s name. Dear me. No, no number of limp-wristed platitudes like “everyone’s entitled to an opinion” or “we all make mistakes” can make up for the fact that this bloke has tried to promote himself by making an inaccurate assault on someone else’s standing. Because it’s ignorant and wrong and ill-timed and ill-considered he warrants the clown stamp. I hereby re-dub Cameron Rose a ‘Clown’. He no doubt will continue to call himself an “Expert’.

After Sunday's game I wanted to bump the topic about The Roar's article bagging Jack V but since it's been closed I am here declaring its author, some nobody none of us had heard of previously by the name of Cameron Rose to be denoted "A Clown''. This puts him in such miserable company as BT, Anthony Hudson, Mark Robinson and assorted other bozos who have a microphone or keyboard but bugger all insight.

More likely pick 23 given how compromised the draft is this year.

That didn't take long.

Interrupted preparation for the skipper. I suspect he was underdone.

Positives: Oscar's best game; Langdon gave us some penetration through the middle, Viney was fantastic, Pickett and Bedford both showed promise. So it was not all bad, but it looked a lot like last year. Still plenty to learn about setting up the forward line. Can't tell from 3000kms away but were our forwards sucked upfield again? Because Hurn had it easy. Would love to see that turd made accountable.

that would be a coup, right? or are we racing pigeons...

Exactly. Why no asterisk for Fitzroy 1916 premiers in a four team competition shrunken by the First World War (Collingwood, Carlton & Richmond were the others); or Collingwood premiers 1917 in a six team competition? Or how about Fitzroy 1944 premiers after five years of war that hit, most of all the Melbourne and St Kilda clubs, and Carlton 1945 premiers after six years of war? You won't find John Elliott or Eddie McGuire worrying about asterisks.

Thanks Sue. I do understand that people'scircumstances change - people lose jobs, take on new responsibilities - but we do know there are still about 10K MCC members who don't contribute. I know they have paid about $600 for their MCC dues but I'd like to think they can find another $85 for the club at least. If the Demons are rubbish then their MCC memberships are devalued. They can maximise the value of their MCC membership by helping the MFC to stay healthy. I must admit I don't understand those others who say they'll wait to see how the season goes. For mine it's all in or out.

Age is irrelevant in the face of your absurd sense of entitlement.