Redleg

I certainly did.

Let me start one. I have heard it from someone who knows that the Beatles will not get back together. Remember you heard it here first.

I cannot believe that the West Coast wouldn't have the same info.

What is this "draft info offer" ?

And what would you think if we didn't get Judd but was able to trade our pick 4 to the Pies for say a Brown and Reid , two 19 yo 194 cm key position players plus some improvement in our remaining picks.

Bailey would have saved us Luke Molan then and we might have had a star player instead. Didn't Dal Santo go later in that draft plus a heap of others.

Don't stop there.

Double damn.

Agreed. If we got him for pick 21 and missed on Judd but after clearing Robbo ended up with with 2 picks inside 10 I would be happy.

Hope you don't really mean he has been poorly advised, he has same manager as Judd.

I don't seem to enjoy my dreaming anymore.

Pick 5 for Robbo and swap our 21 with their 22 or at worst 38.

Pick 22. Aker went for 29. If we got 10 for Robbo and 21 it would be pathetic.

No matter what i don't see Judd going to the Tiges for nothing, it just won't happen. While i share some of your enthusiasm for getting Judd i am a little concerned that we give too much and hurt the list. If it means missing out on Judd but getting good quality kids instead I will live with it. Look where the kids took the Pies this year.

With the retirement of Clement and possibly Buckley, Burns and Wakelin, the pies can have room in their salary cap. The big questions will be, will Judd nominate them and who can they trade outright and to get high picks, to satisfy the Eagles.

Maybe he has been told or believes that he will only get another season out of his body and he is looking for a payday. Maybe he is only looking for security if his form tapers off. Who knows?

And if he chooses us, so should we. I am not interested in getting one star player at the risk of stuffing up our list and future. Clearly pick 4 will be gone and that will cost us a potential topline player who may have 12-14 years ahead of him. If we clear Robbo and another fringe player to the Dogs for pick 5, it should be retained. If CJ wishes to return home and WCE want him he can be part of the deal. That would mean that another player or pick 21 will go. As long as we can live with the player leaving that is OK but I would not clear another young player with a future like Frawley/Jones etc.

Agree, I acknowledge our youth, I just would like to see some more faith in them from the new Coach and also some additions.

If you have a look at the ages of the Pies players you will see the future the club has. For example their fullforward line was Thomas, Cloke and Rusling, all 20. Add Pendlebury and Goldsack also 20 and Clarke 19 and you can see the future of their club. I didn't rate them as a great side but with their pace and enthusiasm a lot was accomplished. We have been reluctant to play the young, even our last game this year was an example. Hopefully Bailey will show faith in our youth and recruit or trade for some more. With the delistings we have made, more room will be available for younger players.

You mean he cheated, by trying to win a match, instead of losing deliberately like Carlton?

Stop holding back, let it out.

You know who said it " Chrissie Amphlett and the Divinyls".

What does he eat for Breakfast? Sorry, I was just getting sick of the hundreds of threads on him.

I actually wasn't limiting the thread to Judd. There are other trades that can be done.

I was just thinking ahead and wondering how we will all be feeling at 2.05 PM on the 12th of October 2007 when the trading period has ended.