Redleg

Robbo on 360 agreed with Lyon, Brown, Buckley and Lewis that Kozzie should get off and had no case to answer. Who was the Tribunal Chairman, was it the Pies supporting Gleeson again?

Off to Appeals Board.

If Moore was in fact drinking beers the next day, that would be very interesting, as it takes 3-5 days for concussion to reach its peak and then start subsiding 7-10 days, hence the 12 day AFL ban after concussion. If he was drinking alcohol the next day, he either didn’t have concussion, was not told to avoid alcohol, or ignored the advice if he was told to abstain from alcohol.

Heading home from GC tomorrow.

Giants.

Schache will be a delisting.

Schache?

That would now be a possibility.

The player’s father is CEO of Collingwood and a former team mate of Christian.

You mean the Pies’ supporting Tribunal Chairman. It has been reported somewhere he is a Pies’ fan. Maybe the female alternate Chairman will officiate. Anyway until one second before impact there is absolutely no possible way Moore’s head is involved. While Kozzie is looking down at the ball Moore drops to his knees. That caused the bump. Kozzie’s feet seem to be slightly taken out from under him as well. That is classic exemption of “ circumstances beyond the player’s control” and that is what you run. I would call a biomechanic expert to show when Moore dropped there was nothing Kozzie could do in a split second at the pace he was contesting.

Your personal info is out there anyway, no matter what you allow or disallow. Do you get unwanted/unsolicited emails and calls? I do regularly and there is basically no way to stop them. I regularly block spam callers and emailers and they just use other names and addresses. It should have nothing to do with you stopping MFC membership, that would be the least of the problem in this area.

That’s not what I saw. When he released the ball without pressure, he had the Pies player in front of him and kicked it straight to him.

Dermie’s minute analysis of even the simplest things is tedious and annoying. It seems as though he does it to show his fellow panellists that he is the footy genius.

No I don’t, so we should get the appeal ready, where you run a very legal argument, not a common sense, factual one.

It’s about circumstances beyond your control. One second before impact Moore is standing up straight. He didn’t bend down exposing his head, he actually dropped his knees, putting his head much lower and in line for contact. Kozzie is coming at pace and in one second has to avoid a head that wasn’t there as he ran in. Kozzie is also looking down at the ball at the moment of impact and trying to kick it. The dropping by Moore is a circumstance outside Kozzie’s control and that is what he pleads at the tribunal. There is no head contact if Moore doesn’t drop. Also Moore jumped straight up and took his kick and played on. He was subbed off later at half time. How do we know conclusively what caused the concussion, which is the reason for the suspension?

I have a feeling that it wasn’t Christian, but rather Laura Kane who has decided this and then the Tribunal can deal with a challenge. I think the word concussion, no matter how caused, dictates her thinking, in view of current litigation.

I don’t.

In the slow mo freeze frame before the hit Moore is standing up and any bump if there was one would be be to Moore’s waist. When Moore drops in the last second Kozzie’s feet are moved and he falls hitting Moore with his arm. Moore caused this but we know what will happen.

Agree with that and the challenge for the FD is to get him to improve in the other areas. Trade him and you won’t get value and will lose goals. He needs to improve his defensive game, tackling, pressure and field disposal. That can be done. There is more to gain by improving his game, than trading him for under value. Last night like in some other games he turned it over nearly every possession and his pressure was actually non existent.

4 blokes with 1200 games on fox footy panel say Moore caused it by dropping at last second and Kozzie shouldn’t get suspended.. We have Christian who said Maynard did nothing wrong. Its the AFL. I expect Kozzie to get a life ban and maybe more.

Well the absolute first thing is don’t turn the ball over.

Sick.

That is far from a good trade if true, as we got an injured player who struggles to get fit and might end up hardly playing for us at all.

He might say “ I was a Pies fan as a kid, I was upset and depressed about injuries and for a moment thought of what it might be like to play for them, but then reality hit and I spoke to the boys, cleared the air and am looking forward to the rest of my AFL career with the Dees and winning more flags.”

They will leave it as they have us over a barrel and it isn’t a fair deal anyway. I fear we may get screwed in trading ANB, as they know we are committed to helping ANB get home and doing the right thing by him and his family. If it was Dodoro, he would offer pick 185. Hopefully the Crows will act fairly.