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If you were in the centre square you would expect the occasional tap from Spencer. I was a Spencer fan and he had to go all night but so did Stanley (I think). We lost it in the middle to the worst midfield we will see. Watts Jones Vince M Jones Dunn Trengove

Slow or timid?

Bale sp. 1. evil; harm; misfortune. 2. woe; misery; sorrow.

Yes thats what people say.

When you look at the players the Saints had unavailable, it makes this win for them a highlight. I aknowledge our bad luck, but NO other team would have lost tonight.

Cue excuses

Cue excuses coming up. Who would be the worst player as captain in the AFL? Initials JG... Meanwhile Chris Dawes earlier said he is 2-3 weeks away. Thats what he said 2 weeks ago and what he said 1 week ago.

All the anticipation, draft picks and pre-season training is over. Now the reality is almost upon us. Winter is coming.

There used to be a "grade 2 rule" when I was a kid. Thats when you make your mind up on your team. But that was then.

If AFL was game of Thrones Mitch would be Theon Greyjoy.

I have sympathy for the players and I am glad I dont know any one related to them. I personally know many Essendon supporters who have revelled in MFC's mis-fortunes and mishandlings. One in particular is a good friend of Rohan Connolly and the two of them have been laughing their heads off at how bad we are going at soccer practice for kids. Rohan, of course is the smiling guru who cant be on live TV because he gets stage fright so he has to tape everything. Bad for his ticker, he says. I hope Essendon fold. Schadenfreude.

The young men who were administered drugs by those they had been taught to trust, I have a lot of sympathy for. But if the athletes who use drugs are not stripped of awards and banned from playing, it would make investigation and subsequent penalties imposed, impossible to pursue.

I think Neita was great despite his development. Each Pre-season when he was from 22 to about 25 he trained with the backs but because of injuries to forwards was inevitably sent to the front half. I dont have facts to confirm but I used to see training especially pre-season quite a bit then. IIRC he didnt train with forwards in the Pre-season till well into his career.

This in a nutshell, has been my thinking since just before Christmas when it looked like we would have a full list. If we had the chance to get an early win, especially the 1st game, we could get a roll on and end up with 8 or so. Winning begets winning. As it is, well I just hope we win against the saints.

Tracey Holmes was on "Offsiders" today. She made a case for the fact that ASADA has had a year to prove the drugs used in NRL and EFC were banned. She says that: 1)it is still murky as to if the supplements were banned (at the time) 2) other large penalties in NRL's recent past have found the original offense to have subsequently been allowed 3) Head coaches do not necessarily have input into medical practice in the club It was interesting that only Caro spoke against what I thought was outlandish statements that we heard a year ago, before the arguments and information became more complex and revealing. Caro didnt seem outraged at all. I think that Cronulla and Essendon will walk.

Then Im tipping you will be fit before Cark... Its not a "bigger than yours" issue, you made an accusation that I had never played footy and I have, and I have managed quite a few injuries. Thats not the point, its a lazy and sharp accusation to say one obviously hasnt played football. So I put up an option that you arent keen on. Funny that.

Nose, teeth, knees, hamstrings, ankles, toes, back but especially fingers. Ive spent money on injuries. Ive no idea who you are sport but you want to do half an hour kick to kick one evening, 10 minutes of of run throughs? Peanut farm St Kilda, pick a night, not Wednesdays. Im 58 short and not particularly fit, slightly overweight, I guess, but unless youve finished playing in the last few years, Im confident Ive got a big mouth like you well covered. IM me. Ive got a new Sherrin KB.

Their work eithic (sic) is impeccable? What makes you think so? Both of Their recovery planning looks amateur to me. My belief is that they could have managed both soft tissue injuries better earlier. If they are back in 2 or 3 weeks, fine. Im wrong, but I dont believe it.

Come back to me again at the start of next year when he has played another 5 or 6 games. Thats more than I expect. Your typical simplistic response will probably be the same. To spell it out for you I dont believe he prepares himself correctly. It would have been known that soft tissue injuries following his Lisfranc was possible. The foot injury was apparently finished well before summer. It is both the club and the players' responsibility to train and recover in the best possible fashion. Look at Hawthorn players making a pact on the night of winning a premiership to come back in excellent shape to attempt back to back. Does Clark (and possibly Dawes) have that work ethic?

It's a big deal of money. We have ahistory of bad returns from players we recruit from other clubs.Many here have deeper pockets than me but I pay membership each year and enter auctions etc. yours iis a very lazze faire position to take. You have deeper reserves of patience which I envy. We haven't won a game yet. If we lose to the saints it wil be because we missed these two.

This is Clarks 3rd season. He is getting $800,000 a year. He is out of contract at the end of September 2015, I think. He has played 15 games for Melbourne Football Club. please someone tell me Ive got it wrong.

Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Ive heard he bought a camera....

yes Friday Night footy with the Dees. Already looking good, just got to keep a couple of Cats supporters from trying to come over to watch my telly.

Im actually more excited to see Jack Fitzy. Im impatient to see if my fragile hopes have much basis. Im hoping he isnt mainly kept to rucking duties and starts at FF leading from the square.