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If somehow this was how it played out, id be bidding on both GCS academy players at 2nd spot and get the GCS to cough up way overs their kids as a big "Frank Underwood" back at them.

I said in BH thread if GCS give up 7,8 which is about 3000 points. How do they both their academy kids if they are bid on in the top 5? they’ll only have enough points for 1 so I doubt this is accepted. Perhaps it’s TL knowing they won’t accept this and are forced to give up on Trac or hand over BH.

Just watch the media try and tlk up Geelongs 3 first rounders for Curnow being a top deal because it’s a Geelong.

They are not giving up both 7 and 8. They need at least one arguably both to match bids for their two academy players which will go in the top4. That is closes to 4000 points worth of picks. 7 and 8 only gets them 75%. I’m shocked that nobody else in the media is talking about the fact that GCS needs both of these picks and we are not giving Trac away for 15 and 18. Humphrey is the key to unlock this deal frankly I’ll be shocked if it’s 7 and 8. I’d still take it and do a pick swap with our 2nd rounders and go after Butters.

He’d be a good get. Seems to have a good personal / teaching natured

My thoughts exactly. Ring up Trac and say GC are not coming to the party - we’d still love to have you Ttac. Maybe look for a 2nd or 3rd option. The [censored] bag shouldn’t have nominated so quickly.

If there was a chance that BH is involved in a trade, then the narrative has to start shifting soon. Otherwise it just isn’t going to happen I’m afraid. It there are two GCS academy players tipped for top 5 they really can’t afford to give up too many picks either. So on the other hand I can’t see how they get their academy players across without including BH in the trade. To force their hand I’d then be asking for 7 , 8 and 15 with our 2nd rounders for Oliver, Spargs comp, McVee and current 2nd going back. This puts Trac value at approximately 2100 points which is about the same point value as 8,18 that was being initially positioned. Either way it works out well for us. Wed bring in White, Sinema plus 5 players from the draft - 3 being in the first round.

What stinks is how the media now pump up Oliver as a player and he is suitability to GWS now that he is being ousted. Before when he was a Melbourne player the rhetoric was always negative. I have accepted it but he was never going to be pre ‘22 Clarry again no matter how much hope we had. If we can get anything better than a 2nd rounder, I’d be stoked but not holding my breath.

So it seems Collingwood are coming 2nd in the pursuit of Clarry. I have firm mail that if this does come to fruition the Pies will approach the AFL to request a change to trading rules where coming 2nd actually trumps the team that have reached an agreement and automatically secures the contract. The AFL are now contemplating what to call this new rule exclusively available to the Pies. Thoughts?

Two words when used together that I don’t want to hear again for a long time.

oh please, we know there was more and a deal was brokered behind the scenes. The Blues arguably never recovered from their sanctions during the Elliot days. Cant have that happen to the Cats now can we...

Curious what did you say about the mole at the club? I had my suspicions on who this maybe.

I think in time, we will all come to realise how our club was mismanaged at the board and at footy department level. We had a unreal playing list who managed to put all differences aside and win a flag. We definitely had dynasty potential , but it’s clear it wasn’t the required environment to succeed. I’m not suggesting it was a complete train wreck, but Goody was in over his head IMV.

If we get 3 first round picks for Trac, I’m picking up the phone to Butters straight away OR pick up the phone to WC and see if Pick 1 is up for grabs. Pick 6/7, Future 1st and a couple 14. They already have Pick 2.

People will not take this seriously, but the Pies are in for a very rude awakening with their age profile. They are trying to do a Geelong but have landed very poor picks in Shultz and Houston for their 1st round picks. There midfield once Zoe does and Sidebottom retire is really in trouble. De Goey can’t get going and their young talent is not good enough. Then are going to bottom out right when Tassie come to the forefront and hence will almost have to trade Daicos to get in some picks to rebuild.

It was never going to be pretty and he isn’t the most mature bloke going around, but those around him need to support him better, there is a life after footy and being welcomed back to the club is important. He is a life member too.

Pick 23 confirm d for Judd. Lamb, pack your bags mate.

Assuming we get 6 and something for Trac Do you chase Butter’s wih 6, F1, 2nd rounder?

I don’t think it’s that bad. Judds departure is just a move back home that was probably accelerated by his time under goody. In all likelihood, it would have eventually happened.

Given how worthless 38 is, walking him to the PSD would amount to the same outcome. So in our case may just be an option. This is where the AFL needs to provide some type of compensation I can’t believe this loophole has not been covered already. Nevertheless we make sure Freo don’t get him and that is worth the sacrifice. If WC didn’t take him, Richmond or North might and McVee would probably want to avoid that outcome and hence chose to say with us. Even getting pick 12 doesn’t feel like a victory. I’d rather Freo offer a F1 - I quite enjoyed the Freo death ride in 2024.

The media really tests my resolve. A whole discussion on how 2025 is the year of player swaps/trades. They (Cooney / Adams) go on for a solid 10 mins talking about clubs like Sydney/Geelong/ Hawks need to cough up another player in the pursuit of Curnow and Merrett because picks this year will be next to worthless. I am speechless how no mention of Petracca was made. I just understand dont understand how we continually get underrepresented in the media. Im realistic and dont think a 1st round plus BH for Trac is doable. Id love for it to happen as that is fair value in my book, but know that at best its a straight swap. If it was Cripps or L.Neale, they'd be talking 3 first rounders and Rowell for either of these players. I know its early days, but i just dont see a world where we walk away from this trade with BH. Now GCS maybe playing hardball as they ultimately want a straight swap whereas i can imagine, we are asking for 7 and BH for Trac. But my instincts tell me it is unlikely and the media seem to have made up there mind too suggesting that BH should stay and yet they dont talk about what is fair for MFC with Trac, it just gets pushed to the side. Fn annoys me something chronic.

Agreed. You need to put an offer on the table to get that interest up. If he nominates first, then theoretically we hold the upper hand in negotiations, which a good manager will not allow. His manager would ask each club to put forward their best offer, take that to BH and ask him what he wants to do. Also i wouldnt be taking too seriously what GCS are saying about BH, they are not going to tip their hand until they absolutely have to....the art of negotiations.

I think its a management strategy designed to create an untenable situation. Its really the only tactic contracted players have. Make it public that he wants to leave, get a few reporters to write stories like "Melbourne have to trade him, there is no coming back from that etc etc".

why would he do that?

It just depends on how bad he wants the move. He clearly has a part of him that wants to come back to Victoria. We can 'grow' that part of him by offering him some decent wages. So hopefully that is what we are putting together. I just hope its something like a $5 million x 5 year deal or thereabouts. I don't want us throwing silly money at an unproven player that has some potential.