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It well maybe the case. He was in ripping form until he had his NDE. Hell be 30 next year. Odds are stacked against him to see him regain let alone improve on form. The odds are even more against any of that if he remains at Melbourne.

It might be for the first few weeks until we start watching him shank kicks inside 50 and kick out on the full from 35m on a 45 angle. We will then see what everyone else sees with Trac and be thankful we don’t have to spend (allegedly) upwards of 1.8M for that level of footy. I also think he is part of the cultural problem so we should be able reset (somewhat) with him out of the club.

All Vic clubs will be BS offers like Geelong did with B.Smith. you know, the kind that includes well pay 50% of salary and will give you a F2 variety <<cough>> Geelong

The AFL need to intervene on two fronts here. 1) they have to equalise or balance the flow of players smaller clubs to bigger clubs and 2) in particular for contracted players, intervene in determining fair trade value (so to avoid a pick 17 for B.Smith) How they determine fair trade value can be built on a couple of items, but contract value, salary, age, etc can all be used. Once this has been determined, the pursuing club can then agree or disagree to continue the conversation. I also think the rules for out-of-contract players below the age of FA/RFA needs to be reformed. We should be allowed to match any offer that comes the way of Judd and receive compensation if he still choses to pursue the alternative offer. Its mind boggling how this can be allowed for RFA/FA but not for those that have yet to reach this threshold.

This is a good point. On paper, they have an amazing list but they either have too many individuals happy to take top dollar but not commit to team footy OR they have a coaching department that cannot get the best out of the team. No matter how they sell it, Juddy should be aware that they have not been able to get things done when it matters. Every team does it, we are not helping ourselves by continuing to go after WA talent.

I put something up like this a while ago. It makes a lot of sense as GC need points, Adelaide need missing pieces and we need Picks and a Trac replacement. It works and 6+flanders is a good return on Trac. Id hold onto 23 though. We are overpaying on that one.

Yeah but Jordan Clark was always luming as a great player before he had a falling out with Matty Scarlett at the cats and would struggle to get a game. Judd will simply take Warner's role, which is a lockdown small defender. He was never a running half back. In fact Juddy isnt one either..too slow.

Those are his positive benefits. On the downside, i think he shirks the contest a fair bit can be a little selfish at times. He does remind me a little of our own Kade Chandler - perhaps a bigger bodied version of him.

I’ll wager that Trac has significantly contributed to the situation. For what it’s worth: Fracture commenced with Oliver’s hammy early 2023 AFAIK. The biggest event to destabilise the list was undoubtedly Gus’s KO in the QF. Wasn’t Trac the one who let Maynard into Gus house to apologise? I’d say a lot of what we have now is due to the lack of leadership that Gus was able to bring. We also had Entrecôte. Multiple players with behavioural issues on the list Tracs NDE and ensuing Shannon Knoll banger moment. So this club been through quite a fair bit when I put it all on one page. The people still there and wanting to make it better are the ones you want to keep. Those that choose to play elsewhere and take the easy road are better gone. The other thing I’ll mention is that a lot of our players tested the waters when contracts were being renegotiated. Gus, Jack, Kozzy etc took a bit of work. I think giving Clarry and Trac those big deals whilst others were accepting unders probably rubbed some ppl the wrong way.,

As others have mentioned Trac is best described as a meecenary. He doesn’t buy into britherhood. He is playing for himself and life after footy. Now I’m not saying that the MFC is innocent in all of this but what is it we did wrong by him? The whole Kings birthday incident was not our fault. We just saw Jezza go back out on field in the GF. For all we could have known he may have been risk amputation… what if that had happened? Is Geelong suddenly to blame given Gezza insisted to play on. As you also saw Starcevich chose to exit the game on his own accord he said he could have played on. Trac leaving is a good thing IMV. I can’t wait to hear the stories we will hear about him once he is gone

Trading into a top 8 team must come with huge deterrents Which is all true tbh.

You’re kidding right ? Both Pedlar and Rachelle are McAdam Mk2 type trades. No thanks. It’s 14, F1 and something else maybe just maybe Rachelle. I’d the. Package up 14 and F1 (Adelaide’s) to get into this years Top 10

100% this. Lets not forget that Trac is a turnover merchant i, s a terrible kick for goal and lacks defensive accountability. His 1-wood was contest and stoppage work and he was continually getting exposed in the last 2-3 years whilst the game has moved towards an outside game. He is obviously still rocked by his injury and its arguable whether he will ever get back his ruthless attack on the ball. We won't miss him as much you all think we will. Its better we cash in now than next year or the year after. I get you still need inside bulls and we have plenty with Langford having a much better balance of inside / outside craft. Id also bank on getting Clarry back to his old self - he is younger too. It may not happen. We will be the better for it with him out of the locker room too. Its never easy to see your premiership stars want to leave but i think his character is on full display here. He knows we are going to have a dip in form and relevance and is choosing to jump ship. I for one will boo him as is my right.

A few rib ticklers?

And then also the occasional out of o tract player they get for pocket change

This too crossed my mind yesterday

all good @Ghostwriter you could not have known. If he was going he was never going to admit it - even to you. I know I wouldn’t. I mean what’s to gain. The bloke is the type of player you don’t want around the club… he’ll always have one eye out the door. better now than in 3-4 years time. We should push hard for pick 11 but unlikely unless we return our 2nd rounder or F2 l. we should otherwise be asking for their 2nd and F2 as Juddy isn’t a first rounder.

The cats will always give up the inside / contested game as their 1-wood has been scoring from turnovers - in particular defensive half stuff. Whilst we herald the Lions offesnive game yesterday, you cannot deny their growth on the defence side. Before last year, the Lions were terrible defensively. Yesterday they proved that they could bring a really strong level defence.

I know its not the same level, but this is very comparable with Trac and his spleen injury that if left untreated for days/weeks could have ultimately cost him his life. But hear me out. Broken arms are most of the time straight forward fractures that heal good enough to restore function. But occasional and rarely, there can be complications. Severe complications that could ultimately cost Cameron his arm. Were the medico's convinced it was just a fracture? Similar to how medico's thought Tracs was just some cracked ribs and at worst a collapsed lung? It was incredibly irresponsible for Geelong to let Cameron back on the field. Will they cop any heat from the media? No... in fact quite the opposite, it will be applauded for its courage and bravery. STUPID!

Has Kingy got rid of his Geelong kit yet?

Suddenly I feel like watching Scream amd eating Reece’s chocolate.

Max Holmes .. don’t feel sorry for this guy one iota.

Wow . Who saw this at HT. I reckon the team saw Jezza broken arm and thought we are no chance

Ashcroft better than Daicos. There I said it.

Footy god intervention.