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Well you do me a better makeup then?

Curtin looked like a deer in the headlights last year and very much looked a bust. My view is that a lot of our youth look miles behind the competition because they are part of a side that is critically underperforming.

Next year midfield. I think the club know this is the direction. They cannot just let kids in there atm otherwise we will be absolutely smashed every week. Langford, Rivers, Kozzy. Rotations by: JV, Sparrow, Kolt Wings: Windsor, XL. Rotations: Chin, Langdon Sestan(?) Trac can either PO or spend the rest of his career in the Forward Line. Oliver: GONESKY.

Where would we be this without Melksham. Its embarassing for the rest of our forwards that a nearly 35 year old is more dangerous than them.

I tuned in for 5 minutes to watch Crows kick 3 on the fly and we couldn’t go inside 50. Switched it off.

I’m convinced as well. You need skillful, athletic and smart players more than just contested beasts

And that is what Goody is trying to find. Kudos to him for trying but I think the fractures in this list are too much to overcome. We were able to put aside the egos for a year or two and it worked. There is a lack of trust in a football sense.

How was that not deliberate He’s protected if you try and get rough with him the umps will ping you … wasn’t a problem when they were a ragging Gawn, Trac and Oliver. But because it’s Nick, can’t have it.

Am I a bad person to wish Collingwood a few season ending injuries?

How that’s not a 50 against Maynard. Again Pies just get the 50/50 calls.

Does Voss survive tonight if this blows out to 100pts

How was Sam Darcy in his pre draft year? Can we dare to dream?

Still amazes me how umps don’t miss a free when it’s Collingwood. Have seen half a dozen not paid to Carlton

Im with you 100% on the players too. They have been really poor from attitude perspective. Goody made a massive bet on the love & connection & healing. In hindsight, he should have just stuck to footy and the gameplan. I reckon Goody has had his chance to turn this around. Im not calling for his head right this instant. I think we let him coach until the end of the year. if we can finish with a positive ledger for the remaining games, knock off Collingwood and ultimately start to see something to give us hope into next year, particularly around i50 method, improvement on scores against and overall defensive profile. Then i could buy into the idea that we have turned it around and the new game plan is starting to take effect. Anything failing that, in particular, if we have a few beltings in the order of 10 goals, have more quarters like we did against GCS, then im afraid change is needed. That goes for the players too. Anyone that is not invested 100% in the remaining part of the season, murmurings of trade desires etc. Put them straight on the trade block. Dont care who it is - we cannot continue to have disharmony in the playing group.

The other element is we could load the backed of the new coaches contract somewhat allowing us to pay less in year 1 in order to move Goody on. It means we will likely forgo an additional assistant with increase in FD cap but I don’t mind the idea of the new coach having a year with the assistants to work out what he needs from ‘27 and beyond. This is why it’s critical to move on Goody now. First year of a new coach is always going to be somewhat a waste.

I think Carlton are 2-3 years behind us realising that they have stuffed up another rebuild. We have already started to recruit our next wave of talent. So in terms of potential i think we are closer to the our next shot at the flag than Carlton is. Not sure that makes a difference though. End of the day it may just be the size of the offer that matters more to Bartel.

Dee wants to play on, Swan gets offer, Freo makes Darcy call Looks like Callum Brown is set to extend his contract with GWS.

I agree. But then there has to be a counter to this right - otherwise all teams would do this to each other? Our main point of difference is contest and inside stoppage. So if they pressure us from the outside, they know that its very very difficult to get frontside of stoppage every single time. They are willing to let us have - at best - 2-3 goals from stoppages (we havent been able to even this of late). And its no surprise to see Kozzy leading the charge here. We just need to have any one of the other midfielders back at their best alongside Viney (who plays the sweeper role). iF we have two of our midfielders firing on all cylinders we are more likely to win the stoppages and contest game. But that alone will not guarantee victory. So solving the Oliver / Trac dilemna in my eyes is only half the solution. Goody and others ahve said that we need to focus more on winning the ball back in all parts of the ground and being able to punish teams on the turnover. We were going ok (from memory) in generating turnovers, its that we dont have the cattle to punish.

There was rumour circling around that Jimmy Bartel maybe approached as GM of Football. Any truth to that? He seems to have his head screwed right. Heck he may even leak some of the Cats special herbs and spices for us to get a leg up.

He does appear to be overcoached. I think you can see that when he appears confused and often gives up rather easily. What would lead to that though? Is it the coaching team trying to do too much to allow him to get back to his best or has he lost trust of the coaching team and needs very specific instructions. i.e. playing that tagger role gave him some real specific instructions to give him purpose.

Guys a jet. An absolute cluster f of a miss to not pick this bloke with 3 picks we had post national draft. Going to be a 10 year player for WC. Legitimate question on what our scouts and recruitment dept is actually doing.

Just on the Cats its hard not to disagree with you, but they had a number of key players and recruits which will be really difficult to replicate moving forward. Dangerfield and Cameron - both are generational players. Smith and Holmes will not even get close to their legacy. Who replaces them in the forward line? S.Neale looks good, but if their 1&2 is Neale and Oliver Henry they will struggle with their game plan. Cameron probably plays for another 1-2 years but he already looks quite proppy with those guitar string hammies. Mitch Duncan 34 will also retire this year and C.Guthrie is always injured. T.Bruhn has question marks on him as well. Even Blicavs and who i failed to mention is an athletic freak - he is generally Scott's joker card in terms of matchups and aerobic capacity and chop out ruck. He maynot be a superstar, but is the ultimate swingman. I do think their downfall is coming in the next 2-3 years. Is it going to be years and years in irrelevance. Probably not, but they will miss finals for consecutive years before the end of this decade. Write it stone. Pies will have one last shot this year. They'll be there again next year, but will not threaten as GCS, Doggies, Lions and Adelaide will enter their prime (and will remain the main challengers for the next 3-4 years).

Pies and Cats will have their day. When Danger / Cameron / Stewart retire over the next 1-2 years they will fall away quite drastically IMO. I know we said this with Selwood & Hawkins Pies will be sooner than you think. The likes of Pendles, Sidebottom, Mihochek, Howe, Moore will not be there in 1-2 years time and no amount of recruitment / trade will be able to cover that amount of experience.

I think the boardroom is also partially to blame. Pert and Roffney did win us a flag, but clearly lacked the leadership and resolve to get us through the turbulence we faced in the last 2-3 years. Maybe nobody in the industry has/had the foresight to navigate that. Whats not really discussed in public is the absolute rotten luck we got with Clarry, Gus and Trac all being dealt really significant blows. Our engine room full of a-graders were bought to its knees. There is really no contingency to prepare you for that. We needed some stability, and the timing of Goody's re-signing came at the worst possible time. The reality is we probably signed him up for 1 year too long. The other aspect to this - again something that Goody takes an absolute bashing for - is our recruitment and development. This was all set in motion with Roosy and PJ. The inside, contested game. Remember we wanted a list that was built for finals football and when the rebuild kicked off back then, it was about contest. Even to this day, contest is a fundamental of all good sides, its what comes post-contest that we lack in. We overinvested in the contest and stoppage. This was further exposed with the retirement of Gus, who was a good outside player and fall from grace of Salem, who was the other weapon off half-back. Just about everything that could go wrong, did. Goody has changed the gameplan - our ball movement is aligned to the modern way but our execution is letting us down. Bottom line is we wont succeed with the list that we have. Im sure everybody within the club is more than aware of this. We have to make some really hard calls (as does Carlton), which will determine how long we are stuck in this rut. Bottom line: Sacking Goody now or next year will not make up for the deficit in our list profile. He will get us playing the right way, but want be able to teach the 'old dogs, new tricks'.

So i think what we all feel is the goals conceded from frees and we top the list on that one. Its not so much the ingame umpiring tbh, but it makes a mark when there is a goal conceded and this statistic pretty much sums up what we have all been seeing of late.