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Awesome news. He's going to the Suns.

I don't see it happening but if we turned Petracca into humphrey it would be an incredible coup for the club.

Viney and Oliver basically fill the same role. Viney is also a leader so club clearly happy to keep good old heads around.

No, it didn't but if we truly believed he was going to be a part of the future then the notion of him 'exploring his options' would not have even been raised.

I absolutely agree the club is pushing him out. Just playing devil's advocate. I really don't know what other role Oliver could excel at.

The last bit is the most telling. You don't talk about players exploring their options if that's not a big possibility.

So if we take what the club said at face value. What role do they actually expect Oliver to play outside of the midfield?

I'm honestly surprised he wasn't asked about Oliver regardless.

Tbh I was expecting a little more based on your earlier post.

Hmm seen some conflicting reports about that.

Don't really see the comparison. Neeld came to a young team filled with outside runners and flankers and tried to turn them into Collingwood lite. It was a square peg in a round hole. King is in rebuild mode and being given the chance to get clean air.

$1.3m - $700k = $600k.

This is the most hilarious result after two years and 27 pages about a guy who has never played a game.

You've got my attention.

Your avatar is and should be the clubs priority. We've got a young core coming through that need proper leaders at the club and bad influences who have been allowed to get away with anything and everything over the past few years are being moved on. Build around that group add more talent and away we go.

Should have traded him two years ago when he still had some value but C'est la vie. Looks like we are fully embracing the rebuild now and moving out the culture killers. Exciting times ahead.

This is Petracca's fault though.

Pretty obvious that the vision King sold the club on did not include Oliver.

Looks like King isn't playing around.

Pretty easy to work out what is being reported as fact and what is speculation with even the most basic levels of comprehension.

They would get a lot of tips you never hear about because they can't be verified. You get a tip from someone that the club is having this meeting. The first thing you do is call one of the parties who would know for sure to confirm. His manager or the club. It's ten minutes of leg work.

You can only do this if there is some truth to it though. Oliver has been floated for a trade the past two years and both times it was the club putting him in the gun. By that logic the leak could have just as easily come from another club like Adelaide who might have had a chat with Oliver's manager themselves, they would also benefit by your logic. Just think that the way people are trying to turn Petracca into a villain and blame him for everything is pretty poor. I tend to agree with your last point that this is likely a leak from within the club. I hate that though. These should be private conversations that don't come out unless they actually need to. If the meeting goes well and Oliver says he's all in then we've basically just aired some dirty laundry for nothing.

So you're idea is that someone from Trac's camp (who?) has told Tom Morris and Sam Edmund that Oliver is on the trade table. How exactly would they know this? Occam's razor is that this has either come from the club who are trying to guage interest or his manager who needs to actually facilitate something in the next couple of weeks. If the club does actually want to trade Oliver then I'm not sure how they do so without it being apparent that he's on the market. If it's not true then we should see the club shut it down in the next couple of hours.

They do if they don't want to make fools of themselves.

You know journalists actually have to verify information through multiple sources. This is insanely conspiratorial.