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He's a versatile mid who is tall enough to rest forward. I see him in our best side for sure.

Culley a massive standout. Think we've got a player here.

In what way did I attack you personally? Again, I've never claimed to be ITK or an expert. If you look at the way I opened the post you originally responded to I asked a question about reporting. The rest of my post was essentially repeating information I have read and that I believe to be based in fact. I'm not sure anyone owns facts? If I'm wrong I'm more than happy for others to correct me or even just ask me to back up my info. We either agree on whether sources of information are credible or we don't, do you believe any of the sources I provided were misinformed? Bit rich to say my posting is high and mighty when you are passing judgement on the standard of my posts and speaking on the behalf of other posters.

Lmao. "No offense but you might be a [censored] poster." Happy new year to you too mate. Never claimed to be ITK at all but google is free if you want to fact check me. Maybe you could try that next time you think I'm being dishonest or misinformed. Here I'll do it for you this time. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/steven-king-paul-guerra-give-update-on-the-demons-fortunes-on-and-off-field-at-melbournes-annual-general-meeting/news-story/745fb468ee0b687f430d818122f42223#:~:text=Goodwin's%20payout%20was%20made%20before,club's%20soft%20cap%20in%202026.&text=Oliver%20will%20be%20paid%20around,after%20his%20trade%20in%20October. So seems I was a bit off-base about the Goodwin/Oliver payouts but that's also why I framed it as a question. Re Rule changes after Treloar trade: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-to-tighten-trade-rules-after-treloar-deadline-drama-20210825-p58lqs.html Re Grundy:

Wasn't it reported that we basically paid our bit in a lump sum to get it off our books asap. Even if our cap is affected by it for a few more years. Same thing with Goodwin I think. After the debacle with the Treloar trade to the Dogs, the AFL simplified the rules around this stuff. Essentially if you are traded to another club and the first club agrees to pay part of the contract. Their portion is put into it's own contract. So the new club can renegotiate things down the line it won't affect the agreement with the first club. Same thing happened when we traded Grundy to Sydney. Collingwood were still left on the hook for their bit because they had a contract with Grundy, not us. Sydney were happy to pay him what we were so we didn't have to cover it at all.

Absurd? The club all but promised an update at the AGM only to hose it down when it came time to deliver. So it all amounted to a bunch of hot air.

The overconfidence from the club on this matter is what worries me the most. Seems like we didn't really know what we were talking about.

Every time he's turned up in the media since the club moved him on he has vindicated that very decision.

I don't love our current logo but we've gone through about 5 over the past twenty years. Changing it again would be stupid.

The Grand Final was four years ago, the dream of another one with that group died two years ago. Oliver hadn't been in our top ten best players for three years. Petracca had been checked out of the club since his injury.

Didn't we want to get someone to sit between him and the footy department and haven't been able to entice anyone to take that role? Few concerns.

I'm a fan of Bowey and he stepped up last year but he just did a lisfranc and we're signing him on for four years? It's a tricky injury to return from.

I don't really care about anything said in the lead up to trade period. We are trying to get good deals done. It worked with Petracca but not Oliver (it was never going to). Teasing an announcement at the AGM re: Caufield and not delivering is a pretty [censored] result though.

Hmmm

Weren't we hinting at some big news with Caufield a couple of months ago? Not sure what happened there. Would be pretty flat if we don't get any update at the AGM.

On-field leadership is empowered through coaching and what is drilled into players at training. It's pretty clear that the coaching was severely lacking in regards to how to handle those moments.

Oliver looked much much better than Robey does in his draft year.

I just don't think there's much of a rivalry to sell. The club let him go, it would be played at the Gold Coast so there'd be only a small handful of Melbourne supporters there and the club have vastly different prospects for the year. Would almost certainly be a complete fizzer. Essendon and Richmond are both big victorian clubs. We are not. I predict that we'll see Hawks, Geelong, and two of Dogs, Adelaide or Carlton. Collingwood will get their wish and sit out for a year.

Nah they will feature teams that played finals last year. A premiership fancy vs a rebuilding side isn't going to bring many eyeballs.

Honestly we'd be better off just seeing if we could become co-tenants at punt road.

Can't see how that would work. You would need to build seating/standing room and play games during the Spring Carnival.

I suspect Essendon are after Duursma

Hogan was traded in 2018 wasn't he?

My point is the public line we gave to the media was a convenient narrative that allowed everyone involved to save a bit of face. A week later we said that we brought Jack Steele in to play Oliver's role. So not sure how anyone squares that circle.

Do people actually believe that we moved Oliver on because he didn't want to learn a new role?