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On-field leadership is empowered through coaching and what is drilled into players at training. It's pretty clear that the coaching was severely lacking in regards to how to handle those moments.

Oliver looked much much better than Robey does in his draft year.

It's forced us to go to the draft which has accelerated our rebuild thankfully.

I just don't think there's much of a rivalry to sell. The club let him go, it would be played at the Gold Coast so there'd be only a small handful of Melbourne supporters there and the club have vastly different prospects for the year. Would almost certainly be a complete fizzer. Essendon and Richmond are both big victorian clubs. We are not. I predict that we'll see Hawks, Geelong, and two of Dogs, Adelaide or Carlton. Collingwood will get their wish and sit out for a year.

Nah they will feature teams that played finals last year. A premiership fancy vs a rebuilding side isn't going to bring many eyeballs.

Honestly we'd be better off just seeing if we could become co-tenants at punt road.

Can't see how that would work. You would need to build seating/standing room and play games during the Spring Carnival.

I suspect Essendon are after Duursma

I tend to agree. Don't think he's the kind of talent you trade up for.

Hogan was traded in 2018 wasn't he?

My point is the public line we gave to the media was a convenient narrative that allowed everyone involved to save a bit of face. A week later we said that we brought Jack Steele in to play Oliver's role. So not sure how anyone squares that circle.

Do people actually believe that we moved Oliver on because he didn't want to learn a new role?

Wouldn't be the first thing that comes to mind when it comes to the Suns.

Playing Oliver was definitely a Goodwin decision.

Relax. Clearly bumped into each other at the races.

Is that the one with JUH and Harmes? Not sure who the others are.

What is said publicly is not necessarily what is said privately.

Decent mix of insight and spin. Don't know that I fully believe Guerra when he says that the off-field issues weren't the reason we traded Oliver. The club is making a decent point of driving the narrative here. Guerra seems media savvy enough to drive that messaging.

Yeah they were definitely able to keep it all pretty quiet when they were really pushing him out.

That would be the only reason to actually do it.

Would call it a B. Cashed in on Petracca, picked up a couple of cheap AFL ready players and made the best of a bad situation with Oliver, although it's impossible to look at that positively given we had the chance to move him on last year on much more favourable terms. The media sucking up to the Hawks is funny. They missed out on their man and did bugger all else. Genuine fail from them.

Didn't he kick 5 on Judd last year?

Nothing like that.

It's really fine for him to communicate club strategy. Even if he is just reiterating stuff we know it's good to have every level of the club singing from the same hymn book.

Reckon people are sleeping on Greeves.