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11 players 22 and under across both weeks, which is what I said. You can’t count Jefferson as he hasn’t played.

Yep, although I believe the 11 posted by the club was 11 under 22 between the North and Brisbane games - the 9 you listed plus Bowey and Howes who played against North when AMW and Woey didn’t.

It would be good if these numbers were available by quarter, I reckon we would’ve been further ahead on distance covered at 3QT and way behind on pace and distance over the 4th. -20 on pressure and 39% time in fwd half in the 4th tells me we were cooked and that’s probably due to how much more work we did over the first 3QT. I think we’re having to work harder without the ball after moving away from the high press and we’ve also got players getting caught out of position and having to run harder to compensate.

IMO Pendlebury’s on Neale was worth a week, Neale was looking at the ball up and wasn’t expecting contact when St Pendles whacked him in the guts - cheap shot, 1 week. Maynard goes to Long and punches him in the arm, Long open hands him in the chest - don’t think that’s a week with or without the acting. They’re both front on and Maynard should’ve expected to get one back as he gave one first.

Don’t tell me that’s Barrett? He’s actually been pretty measured on us this year after giving me the [censored] for years..

I don’t believe he’s justifying it but that is absolutely how it gets applied. Cody Wightman and Ginnvan would’ve earnt negative money over the past 3 years if exaggerating contact copped a fine.

AFL would’ve fined him for staging and taken the flag off us

6 tackles last night, equal 4th on the ground with Clarry

No legs, ran out of gas like last week and went defensive - didn’t want to take a risk in case we turned it over cos it would be a certain goal the other way as no one could get back to cover. There was at least 3 times they got it off us and it was 3 on 1 in their forward line cos no one could get back to help. Same as last week they were cooked but this time we didn’t have a big enough lead. Still [censored] off they didn’t pay May the mark on our half forward line, instead of him kicking it to the top of the square it’s down the other end.

As Melbourne supporters it does feel at times as if Gawd has forsaken us

Viney, Oliver, Koz, May, TMac, Tholstrup all good. The rest not so good. stopped dead in the last, no gas. Season done, but we’re not far off. Umpires [censored] disgraceful. Lions, bunch of massive [censored]. Won’t win anything. Edit: AMW also good

Yeah I’m not on board the loading train. Have only ever seen us look bad which gets blamed on loading and I’m yet to see any of the supposed benefit where we come out the other side looking fresh. If we’re putting heavy loads in during the week when we’re sitting outside the 8 and can’t afford to drop a single game the fitness staff should get the bullet. For me it’s a combo of new gameplan where players aren’t in the right spots and have to do more work to compensate, Clarry & Petty not having preseasons, young players not having the fitness base, bad turnovers catching us out of position and doing more tail chasing. All of that makes us look slow and tired cos we are.

Yeah I thought this was harsh as well, it’s impossible to replace 25-30yo players like for like with 19-22yo - the kids will be fine in most cases but they need time. I get the frustration but there’s not much to be done about it. I thought it was going to come to blows in the first 3min of the pod but it settled after that 😂

A bit weird that Brown jnr got dropped but lots on here seem to assume that because things are a surprise to us on a Thursday night that the players are as mystified as we are, I don’t think that's the case. Lever back helps us, interesting to see us go tall and that’s probably what cost Brown, couldn’t fit AMW in without dropping a small and it was LIFO. Can’t see us winning, lions by 30 unless we find a way to kick 85+ which has been pretty rare.

Less than 7months older on average than the Roos team we played last week and they’re in full rebuild mode. I had us probably 6-8th preseason, losing to the eagles and getting flogged by the dockers derailed that a bit and now Trac going out for the year probably has us 7-12th now with more turnover of the best 23 than was planned preseason. I think it’ll stand us in good stead for next year with some games under the belt of the kids and hopefully add a couple of guns through draft and free agency. It’s a reset and refresh year not a burn it down and start again year.

Some serial offenders in there. Is Will Schofield still annoyed at us over Clarry getting him reported there? Would explain his commentary the other week..

Exactly. We’d all like Clarry back in B&F form but setting minimum standards on an internet forum isn’t going to get him anymore kicks on the weekend

I was scrolling through AFL tables looking at his record against us to see how this could possibly be a decent prediction before the penny dropped..

You poor thing. Thoughts and prayers 🙏🏻

In the highlights you can see he gets to Petty after the mark telling him to (I assume) take his time, do his routine or whatever and then as you point out is in there celebrating after Petty kicks the goal - shows that even though he’s got his own issues he’s got genuine care for his teammates and is trying to help them out. Obviously has or had some off field issues, played with a broken finger for a month, is having a down year but he isn’t Robinson Crusoe there. He’ll be back.

It was good when we were winning, gone off the rails in the past month. I haven’t managed to get through a full ep in a while.

I went hard on north at $5.30 so I can pretty much guarantee they are no chance given my punting record.

Agree, culture doesn’t prevent bad times, it helps you get through the bad times. The slump we’re in doesn’t show the culture is bad, but how we come through it will show where we’re at.

Fair enough, but that vision doesn’t show what Lloyd’s claiming in my view. He’s 70m out in the first one, not looking to have a shot - I think he’s thinking does he go to JVR or to Pickett and ends up taking too long. The handball to Chandler was probably there but he’s also our main goal kicker so is paid to kick them.

I think this’ll be it. Won’t see Fullarton, AMW or Sestan until they start appearing in the emergencies first - club usually signals who’s next in line