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Frankly, his media presence is the least of the concerns. Goodwin needed to become more approachable and likeable and reveal more of his personality because his brilliance and ability to coach was evident - but he was robotic and stagnant in his media appearances. Bartlett doesn't have the luxury of evident brilliance and capability - he needs to demonstrate that. At the moment his accomplishments are 'existing' at the same time that Peter Jackson was at the club, making a eye-widening decision to go it alone on the decision around Jackson's replacement, and showing pettiness toward a journalist who did nothing more than point that out. Obviously this is just my opinion but Bartlett is nowhere right now. I don't know him, and I don't trust him.

Where is the evidence that Bartlett is an excellent president, @Lucifer's Hero? I have heard from multiple people that the Pert decision was a captains call and that he didn’t talk to anyone at Coll and without the AFL on board... That is damning whether or not Pert works out. I hope for the best but I have zero trust in him. I have more trust in Jackson and the AFL coz they have runs on the board. Bartlett has simply been around during our renaissance. This specific issue sounds petty and self defeating but I have larger concerns.

Hogan is a stud. If he wants to go then we can facilitate of course but I think he is a match winner. I am comfortable with what the FD makes of the situation which is a great feeling, but if he wants to stay within our wage structure then I would keep him. Sigh.

Yes, it makes more sense if Hogan leaves. It makes some sense if they want to save Gawn from overwork and save his body, it makes more sense if Preuss is destined to switch out of FF with Gawn. Weed and T Mac to work out of CHF and a high target.

My guess is we will play Coll, Haw, WCE, Syd and BL twice next year. Just random guess work that I may, or may not, bump in the future.

I have him in the backline.

I am making some assumptions about how we will play next year and how other teams will play against us. One example is a second ruck to stretch Gawn. On this point, I don't think OMac is good enough as anything other than second ruck defender. 'Good enough' is to better our situation; get us into a GF. Role and Player Good Enough For It, and The Depth Gorilla Tamer Tall (1) : [Trade for Player] Depth: Frost, Kielty Second Ruck Defender (1) : O McDonald Depth: Impact Tall (1) : Lever Depth: Petty, Medium Tall Defender (2) : Hibberd and J Smith Depth: Lewis, Baker, Wagner Small Defender (2) : Jetta and Stretch Depth: Hunt Midfield Inside Rotation (5) : Viney, Oliver, Brayshaw, Harmes, and vandenBerg Depth: Jones, Maynard Midfield Outside Rotation (2) : Salem and [Trade for Player] Depth: Fritsch, ANB, JKH 1st Ruck (1) : Gawn Depth: [Trade for Player], Bradtke 2nd Ruck (1) : Wiedeman Depth: T Smith Tall Forward (2) : Hogan and T McDonald Depth: Medium Forward (2) : Melksham and Petracca Depth: Hannan Small Forwards (2) : Spargo and [Trade for Player] Depth: Garlett Assumed delisted/traded: Vince, Balic, Tyson (T), Bugg, King, Pedersen, Kent (T), McKenna Upgraded: Kielty Would love a small forward, an outside player through the middle with excellent skills and a tall defender that just beats his bloke. Also a back up ruck but Weideman is second ruck. We cannot carry 5 talls into a game.

We were great this season for where I thought we would be. However, we did struggle against the best teams until the end of the year (which is a good time to be in form of course). I do think our backline needs more than Lever, our midfield needs more skill and must stick to the timeline of our young talent, and our forward line is schizophrenic to how the team plays; we don’t have small players to make the most of the chaos we create when we get it forward. Either get skilled mids and hit targets forward of center or hit the spots and surround Hogan and McDonald with a couple of Ryan/Rioli types and not ANB/Hannan types. Still excited but work to do.

I haven’t thought about list decisions because, you know, yeah...glad that’s over ? But yeah, Lewis and Jones should be in our bottom 6 players next year if we are to maintain where we are at. We have to get actual wingers and Fritsch will help but we need a Wingard type that can run lines and deliver with accuracy. Hogan and Lever help a lot and Stretch will be first 18 I think next year. Can Hunt be redeemed? All of these players push Lewis and Jones down and possibly out.

You are right on Jones. If Jack is fit over summer - he should be sole captain. The reason is what you just described; you can’t have a captain in your bottom 6 players.

He was horrible. But so was the rest of the team. He shouldn’t be a walk up start next year, but neither should Jones - who had a worse September than Jordan... We got shown up between the ears today across the board. To lay it at the feet of the easy targets is a trap we should avoid.

What a humiliating half of footy. I realise this is a failure of the new Melbourne, but what a failure it is. It’s stunning.

Pies were hot in the contest and had a better midfield.

It’s been excellent and has been a great way for fans to live through the kid in Brissie, the old lady from the coast, and Jon and his mum - as they impact the players and the club.

Which is the case with all our past FDs. Thankfully, we now have one that knows better than the (above) average Dees fans on this forum...

Devastating for him but he should hope we win because he would be a big chance to come back for a certain tall that would have no match up against the Tigers...

I would understand it - Tyson is more suited to the style of game we wish to play if Smith is to come in for a player - it would make sense to be Fritsch. I wouldn’t do it, because I think escaping the backline is more important than whatever small improvement Smith would have on playing on one of the smalls. *However, if this is to put Smith on Darling and OMac onto Vardy/Lycett then I understand it even more; it releases Hibberd a bit more.

He is playing his role. However, Tyson is definitely playing out of position; he is a very natural footy player that knows where to find the footy. He isn’t great at anything else. But the MC have to weigh up whether Smith in to that settled backline to take whoever Salem/Fritsch/Lewis was to take and freeing them up is worth more than Tyson’s prolific ball winning. I really don’t think this is thought about if we are not playing WCE. Everyone of their forwards can kick at least 3 if no work is put into them. Smith in and Fritsch up the ground is a definite and valid question...

I believe in Clayton.

Fritsch was not good in contests last week but him, Lewis and Salem are so helpful for their skills coming out of the backline. I don’t want Smith there for that reason... I get it, but I just think we need skills back there - it’s our point of difference for us. Not the greatest defenders but pretty good at hitting up targets and getting us out of there.

The chant at the end was ‘Jonesy’ not ‘Melbourne’... jus sayin... The MCC chanted Jonesy, the other parts of the ground chanted Melbourne and it ended up sounding less harmonious than it could have been...

Here lies TGR, who died the way he lived... It sounded like a combine harvester, it looked like a combine harvester, but he refused to see a combine harvester... *Apologies to Rowan Atkinson

Not to labour the point here but, honestly, how about now? He has been our best midfielder, arguably our best player, in the finals. This is the real Jack Viney. He wins you finals. He wins the ball. If win a granny in the next few years, who do you think will win the Norm Smith?

Shuey. And yes, we will win a lot of footy and put a great deal of pressure on McGovern, Hurn and Barrass... Needless to say, I'm confident. But the footy gods don't care about what the team looks like on paper; names don't win footy, effort does.