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I thought he was fantastic and it is laughable the rigidity to which a certain poster sticks to his view - will actively allay and obsfucate any reality that doesn’t back his preconceived contrarianisms. Been doing for as long as the Internet has been up and running... Footy minds know better ?

Said it before - we should win if we play near our best because the team we are playing against is not built for finals footy. They look to keep possession and avoid contests and are terrible out of the centre. They will try to get Dangerfield and the other elite talent to dominate and make us reactive and inert. We play our ferocious style and lower our eyes - we will win.

Pretty effing good trick! Honestly, Viney is a victim of short memories and the Amazing Progression of Oliver and Brayshaw. Jack Viney is a beast and a leader and if he fit enough, he is in that team and winning that footy.

Really glad for Tyson. He is a good story too coming into his first final.

If Collingwood beat WC then we would play every game at the G. But let’s beat Geelong first...

Yeah, let’s not. Hope to see Don at the footy on Friday night. Onward and upward. Go Dees.

Source?

Nowhere near? The beauty is in the grey here. Oscar is being pushed by Frost the last 8 weeks... If the MC like Smith, I don’t know who will make way, but Oscar is not ‘nowhere near’ being out of that side. He has a thin needle to middle here; he has to beat an important player, not make any mistakes, and contribute to us moving the footy up the ground.

And Hibberd and Salem and Lewis and Fritsch and maybe Frost... But this argument is irrelevant. Oscar won’t lose his spot Fritsch or Lewis. He will lose it if we think that Lever, Frost, and Hibberd with Gawn behind the footy is more value than having Oscar back there amongst that group.

I am a bit worried. If he is in the team to be the ‘gorilla tamer’ then he is in the wrong pen. Frost went to Cameron and will go to Hawkins. If Oscar wants to stay in that team when Lever comes back, he needs to step it up. And not to sound like @Clint Bizkit here - but he does stupid little things like let players run around him for one-twos and doesn’t man the mark properly. For his age he is fine, I just wonder whether he is in the team when we are healthy.

ND and RDB??

A great Demon. Came to us at our lowest and gave you a reason to watch the team.

Good footy players will make it work. Hogan in the middle from time to time and Weideman to continue his excellent progression as second ruck. McDonald may need to go back/wing as well if we are too tall. Gawn needs more of Weideman and Hogan is good enough to make it work in my opinion.

Equally, if you don’t want it intimated that your ideas are idiotic and stilted - don’t share them in a thread.

We are walking but that ain't gum we're chewing...

The discussion is fine - this is a football forum - a discussion over the merits of trading someone is par for the course. What is also par for that course, is the judgement of posters and the 'discussions' they seemingly can't stop faffing on about - so continue with the stumbling around in the dark looking for your proverbial pants.

I think he has been better than average. He has held that backline together all year after losing Lever and also Hibberd for a bit. He gets marked on a curve but he is a role player and has been executing that role well all year.

They play keepings off footy and avoid contests. I’m sorry, but we are built to beat teams like this. We win the contested footy and then let teams off the hook on the outside. If we don’t switch off like we have done for 2 of the 8 Quarters we have played them - we will win. Will totally understand a bit of stage fright - in the first 5 mins - then it is time to get to work.

He is also a big effing unit and uses the whole apartment.

What a great run from vanders to be entrenched in that side. Amazing. If Tyson is done then Viney and Hannan. JKH survives as he is serviceable and is more use than Bugg.

That was a reference to Oscar. Weideman is tracking normally - his ruckwork is a point of difference that he can build a career out of it if he can stay relevant as a forward like today.

Ah. if it is a ‘snake’ system. It won’t be terrible. If it is not that and the top teams get 27 and 45 then it won’t go anywhere.

So the top team get 27 and 28 instead of 18 and 38ish? The draft is meant to help the teams down below. I don't immediately hate it. Willing to listen to arguments though.

He's a gun footy player - he can do whatever he wants on the field. Garry Lyon was the same - put him wherever and he will be great. Getting back to the point of this misguided thread - the only time we trade him is if he requests a trade - you don't shop stars and he is one. End of story.