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whats the stat for scores from D50, + more factors at play to create that decrease than just frostball

that says more about our list as a whole than it does about him, because he's barely offered enough to stay in the team longer than two weeks our defence would be so much better off with frost rather than Omac, tommo or smith. thats a trade we definitely got wrong

i think hogan can be our dusty our dane swan, honestly who cares what off field stuff he's doing, truth is when he's on the field he cares and he gives it his all, he did with us and the last month of this season when he was fit, injury free and playing in the forrward line he looked good, perfect running paterns, good work rate and he was impacting games and clunking them like he did with us. absolutely jesse should be on our list next year, before we look at a brown/mihoceck type

so the two clubs who are still playing havent made any list changes SHOCK garauntee 2 days after the GF they move on more players than we have in a heartbeat + theyre actually successful so they have every right to retain the majority of their lists.

how can every club already have more list changes than us FFS why do we struggle so much with moving on from players who dont perform over an extended period of time, soooo frustrating, we've genuinely got no clue what we're doing do we.

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jesse stays imo - he looked fired up the last month and was starting to gel after a slow start to the season due to his mental health paddy mccartin to the swans to play with his brother too so it comes down to brown... saints, pies, dees...

considering he was stakeknives and cost nothing and probably was on a low wage it was well worth the risk, was a needed position and he was a really promising youngster early, unfortunate it didnt work out but it was totally out of our control and im happy we tried

petty will play CHB keep tomlinson out of the team he's not a forward

1 + jordon clark would be ideal and some more, rivers and clark off hb/wing would make me drool

compare the season before when phillips actually played wing not HF, yes smith is more favourable in some stats but its much more even https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=11&playerStatus2=A&tid2=5&type=A&pid1=3464&pid2=4214&fid1=P&fopt1=2011&fid2=P&fopt2=2019

OUT: Preuss (GWS), Hannan (WB), OMcDonald (Hawks/Dogs), TMcDonald (Dons), Neal-Bullen (Freo), Jetta (Pies), (Chandler? -del) IN: Ratugolea/Wright, Phillips/ISmith, JClark, small forward (Ronke, Aarts, Higgins) yes plz + i'm big on narkle & witherden but thats a lot of ins and Clark seems more gettable?

instead of getting a disgruntled r2 like preuss we need to be targetting a mobile option that can play alongside (+ with LJ and Weid). Sav and 2mPeter fit this bill and structurally improve our side. they're both still very young for KPP and have played roles at AFL level, i think we absolutely must add one to the list even if it doesn't work out its worth the punt over TMac and an ageing MBrown for the future as a depth option

the only reason anyone thinks smith is better is because he's won 3 flags, thats it its the only reason what had smith achieved as an individual player that phillips has not by his age. phillips got squeezed out of one of the best sides in the comp, no shame in that. you go to the afl website side by side compare phillips and smiths output and tell me without putting a picture/name to a list of stats you actually rank smith higher. its extremely even and then you take in age and wage demands and phillips becomes such a logical choice. people saying richmond went out and added prestia caddy nank all this, none of them were "stars' at the time but they thrive in the system. we need a left footed winger so get the one whos gonna be around for the success and grow with the group together rather than delaying the problem for two years

sergio romero woulda bee a huge coup sorry our [censored] board didnt want to come to the party :( thouroughly enjoying watching u lot play week in week out, started with DCL in fantasy im ahead of the curve :P geelong have no problems with young players leaving - for multiple reasons. A) they back in their recruiters to steal some stars with late picks, b) theyll get first rounders/top picks in return to reinvest in trades (like gws of recent years but better) and C) theyll just bring back former falcons in two years time when they breakthrough elsewhere as theyve been doing. Getting Clark across with Sav would be huge, can play off a HBF just as well as he goes on a wing, given hibbos age itd be a great deal

Ratugolea - given the Hawkins Cameron Stanley lineup he wont get a single look-in, doubt he hangs around the fringes waiting if hawkins gets 2yr deal he coached me at school, such a great bloke and good coach

they're surprisingly yet to announce delistings but OOC are ALOT of those mid type nothing players hannan barely an upgrade but like us theyre trying to try something different so fair play to them and i wont be surprised when he's off their list in 2years. hopefully we can weasil their first pick out of the deal once we make our other moves and get the late points up

i'd be taking a look at Sav if we miss on brown, absolutely, he's young and you could say raw but would be a good goalsquare player who can clunk them and take pressure off weid and jacko, u can definitely see he has room for improvement and untapped potential but he'd come cheap and at least gives us a younger alternative to mitch brown. also back ups the ruck well too. Say we miss on brown its Sav vs 2m Peter coz i'm not going into another season with just Weid, Jacko, Tmac, MBrown or i guess we try and prise mihocech out but id rather a bigger body who has that F/R flexibility seeing as we're missing out on all the BIG boys

i'd be taking a look at him if we miss on brown, absolutely young and you could say raw but would be a good goalsquare player who can clunk them and take pressure off weid and jacko, u can definitely see he has room for improvement and unlocked potential but he'd come cheap and at least gives us a younger alternative to mitch brown. also back ups the ruck well too. Say we miss on brown its Sav vs 2m Peter coz i'm not going into another season with just Weid, Jacko, Tmac, MBrown

i'll be pissing myself laughing when the hawks sign him up and he lines up alongside frost round 1

if smith comes in its the end of the road for baker, none of this take him under his wing business. baker is OOC next year 23yo 5 years 5 in the system! if we are the side we wanna be and a player hasnt shown anything bar 4/5 games a year after that long its time to go, so if we're bringing smith in baker spends the entire season in the twos proves nothing and is off the list. if baker is the answer or u want him to be play him from round 1 and see what he does or you could actively take phillips who is absolutely more than capable and move onto the next problem position and draft someone to develop behind he and langdon Phillips is 2 years older than Baker and has played 80 more games than him! baker isnt gonna cut it i'm afraid

i'd give him a spot for a year if he was the last player on the market or if it meant moving on from Hunt, Hannan, ANB which all seems likely

bro i know who he is, like cool but we have players developing as inside mids already yes he would improve our list because hes a talented player but he doesnt improve the structure of our side and we shouldn't recruit for the 2s specifically until we have a good 22

the one that bounced off both posts when u see it on replays that was a stunner

mitch brown back with the flight mightve been in cairns is about the only one that comes to mind