Everything posted by tiers
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Predictions for break out year in 2021
Back in October 2020 I wrote: As I have said before in a post, the late Dean Bailey used to say that it takes 70 games played as a group to build the sort of cohesion and understanding needed for success. We are getting to this target - Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw, Salem, Harmes, Gawn, TMac(?), Viney, Jetta and maybe others. It is significant that Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw and Gawn have been prominent in recent Brownlows. MaCartney used to say that it takes 5 years to build an AFL footballer. Combine the two and 2020 was supposed to be our year but it will now have to wait for 2021. With good coaching and leadership it's nearly time for this group to burst out and find success. After Saturday's success, it is now clear that the club found good coaching thanks to Goodwin, Williams, Yze and leadership thanks to Maxie, Petracca, May and Lever. Once all the pieces were masterfully assembled thanks to Taylor, success flowed. C'arn the demons.
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1964 memories- calling our older supporters
I have referred to this more than once in these threads. In 1964 I was in high school and had the thrill of standing in the open stand under the old scoreboard and watching Crompton's kick sail towards me. Until Saturday this was my greatest thrill after more than 60 years barracking for the dees. My greatest thrill from now on will be watching the last quarter and a half when we kicked 16 goals to one. C'arn the demons.
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GRAND FINAL: Melbourne vs Western Bulldogs
Re: targeting Maxie. If the bullies are set to target Maxie then one of both of these things should happen: Maxie should run him off his feet. Stef might have been faster once but Maxie's tank is so much bigger and he is at peak fitness. Or, play Jackson in the ruck to run him off his feet and rest Maxie where he can do most harm. Maybe to smother Schache and free up Lever or play in the goal square and take marks. There is no other player who is so versatile and destructive. Ask [censored] cats. And, we still have TMac if they want to play games and BBB can also take turns in the ruck in the forward line. C'arn the demons.
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Norm Smith to Simon Goodwin
Recruiting zones heavily assisted the dorks and the lollieblues whose premiership sides in the 70s and 80s were full of zoned (ie untouchable) players. Zoning disadvantaged the dees whose zone delivered few champions (Flower, Lyon and not much more) in 20 years until drafting commenced. Good coaching and preparation could still make a difference but not enough for a flag. The u19s under the highly regarded juniors' coach Slug Jordan in the early 80s populated our finals teams in the 80s and 90s. But even they were not champions but just a well coached and trained group who came through together and were inspired by Northey to play above themselves. 2021 is the first year since the early 60s where we have a several mature champions at the same time (Max, Clarry, Tracc, May and Lever) and a well coached and implemented game plan based on roles. C'arn the dees.
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Medals for All?
Three levels of recognition: 1. Players on the day - 23 presented with a mini cup as recognition that they played that day. 2. All players who played at least one game - a medal from the AFL/club as recognition that they contributed to the premiership. 3. All support personnel including coaches, medicos, trainers, water carriers, runners - a medal from the club as recognition that they contributed to the premiership. Seems fair. Nathan Jones must have something to show for his outstanding contribution to the success of our club.
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What I've Learned from David King*
Doggies had success against anti-power because they were able to successfully isolate their forward line into separate one-on-one contests. Schache was just a spoiler. Watch the replays of the first quarter to see how it worked. The Dees on the other hand do not allow our backs to be isolated so easily and play a team defence based on clever running and support from team mates. About half way through last quarter against [censored] cats Petty was caught one out against Hawk and Cameron and was out positioned so that Hawk had a clear shot. Langdon backed up and harrassed Hawk who dribbled the ball to Cameron who was out classed by Brayshaw. How disciplined and smart is our set up when the two wingers provide back up on the last line of defence and in the blink of an eye are positioning up the ground as targets for clearances? It's called TEAM and has been a revelation this year.
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Gerard Healy on Nathan Jones, the chase for Cerra, and taming the Dogs' midfield
Re: tagging. Why is it that it is always that we have to tag them. With Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Harmes, Jackson (in his midfielder role), Langdon and Brayshaw its more than probable that our opponents have more to worry about for their taggers than we do.
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Thanks Jonesy - Retirement
+1. A determined footballer, a courageous leader and a great servant of our club but, above all, a GENUINE DEMON. No honour is too great. Thanks Nathan. As we said in 1964, c'arn the demons.
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Forward connection fixed
Should also include Neal-Bullen and occasional ring-ins like Petracca, Oliver, Jackson and, of course, Maxie.. We have this year finally realised that there are roles for everyone. Sometimes they are fixed, sometimes they vary with the opposition set-up, the state of scores or simply to confound and to confuse. It relies on switched-on, disciplined role players who set up in the right positions and who can turn nothing into something. Very hard to defend against.
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1964 Football Record - to focus attention
Copy of the team list from the 1964 Grand Final Footy Record signed by all of the players who attended the 50th anniversary reunion in 2014 at the Bentleigh Club. 14 attended with some sadly deceased and others unwell or overseas. I had the good fortune to attend and spend a few hours with my heroes from 1964. There are some things in life that bring great joy and happiness. It's a thrill to have our captain, RDB, and vice captain, Hassa, still with us to lead us to the game. 1964 Footy Record team list signed14092021.pdf
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Our grand final posters
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Things to do in the two weeks until the grand final
Meditate, pray, go to a monastery to hibernate to avoid the publicity. Come out of hibernation at 7.00 pm Saturday 25 September. One moment at a time. As we used to scream in 1964 c'arn the dees.
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Swingman Maxie
What a revelation. Maxie can play full back (on hawk in the goal square for a while), loose man in defence, high marking full forward, first ruck who can also clear his own work, chaser and tackler (tackle on rohan), ground ball getter, goal sneak from the pocket and now attacking midfielder with goals on the run from over 50m. Not quite the complete package until he shows that he can run like langers, intercept like Lever and kick exquisitely like Salem. I cannot recall over 60 years a champion ruckman in any team that combined the skills and attributes of our Maxie. That list includes Schultz, Farmer, Sampson (Ess), Green (Rich), Dempsey, Thompson, Moss, Teasdale, Madden 1 and 2, Scott, Jimmy, Wynd, Nicnat. None of them could have achieved what Maxie achieved in the prelim final. To Maxie - please settle, rejuvenate your mind and body and play to your best.
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Ranking your favourite goals of all time
+1.
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Your first MFC Game/Best MFC Game/Worst MFC Game
First game - late 50s loss to sainters at Junction Oval. I was so young and knew so little about the game that I got upset because they were kicking goals above the reach of the dees. Best game - 1964 grand final. Has sustained me for 57 years so far. Worst game - Queen's Birthday 1965 huge loss to sainters (again) that started our long and tragic decline. Before that loss we were 8-0 and on top of the ladder.
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BEST TEAM IN THE AFL ERA 1990 TO CURRENT
There are possibly too many permutations and combinations but the following players, who do not appear in all selections, IMO must be included in any team that claims to represent the best: Travis Johnstone; Brett Lovett; Alan Jackovich (before injury); Liam Jurrah (before injury) IMO questionable selections included in the above teams include Ingerson, J Viney, Jones, J McDonald, Jetta, Hibbert; Langdon; Fritsch; Salem. With a goal to goal line of May, Neitz, Oliver, Schwarz and Jackovich we could take on and beat the world.
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ESPN article - Past players inspiring the current team
In 1988, during the finals, it was always Rod Grinter, and Rod alone with chest out, who led the team in a final circuit of the Junction Oval at the end of training to the cheers and delight of the adoring supporters. It was so moving that I sometimes still believe that most of us spent our emotion there on the eve of the Grand Final. The actual match against the dominant dorks was almost an anti climax. When coaching an amateur club, Mark Williams invited past players to join in the club song with the team after a stirring victory on the day of the past players president's lunch. Similar sentiment. It was the best experience that I had had (apart from premierships) since I hung up my boots. Builds a club. No surprise at the at the efforts of the current club. Good people bring good results.
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Lever....... The culture shifter
Selwood came into a team that had Ablett, Bartel, Corey, Scarlett, Chapman and others who had had years to develop and mature. He added the cherry on top but did not change the team. Lever came into a team that was underperforming (or perhaps performing as well as it could) and changed the style to improve the game plan. Oliver, Petracca, Brayshaw, Viney were still developing themselves and so Lever changed the game plan on his own (of course with the coaches' help). Great pick up and even greater player.
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What to buy (IF we win)
One week at a time, please.
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Toby Greene umpire contact
Should get weeks (min 4). It was a deliberate, provocative and gratuitous act of a seemingly spoilt brat but just as likely to be an out of control dimwit. Either way he must pay. The reversed free kick should also attract attention. A deliberate elbow/forearm in the neck should cost weeks too.
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Daisy Pearce wins AFL Media Association Best Opinion / Analyst Award (thread update)
Daisy's incisive, intelligent, interesting, innovative observations. Agree.
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - HARRISON PETTY
Leave him alone for now. He does his job with aplomb and carries out the role he is given to the letter. One week at a time. Go dees.
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Hassa Mann to be interviewed on Nine news tonight
It is fair to assume that our outrageous success in the 50s and 60s led to many years of drought as each new generation assumed the good times would come back especially if we called upon those who had had success. I think back to when John Beckwith, Dennis Jones and Ron Barassi were installed as coach as much for their nostalgic connection and (except Barassi) less for their demonstrated success. This held us back for years until Northey broke the mould. Even recruiting Hassa Mann to the club was in the hope that some of his success would rub off. In the end it is the team in each era that can bring success, not memories.
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Jess Gawn to deliver during finals?
Let Maxie deliver first. Then we can all rejoice in the next Maxie/Maxine.
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Hassa Mann to be interviewed on Nine news tonight
Kicked the goal from the boundary against the dorks to secure top spot at the end of r.17 in 1964. Deserving of praise.