Farmer

Really. In these boring times do yourself a favour and watch our two winning finals from 2018 and then tell us if Oscar, let alone Tom, should be traded . oscar does not LOOK the part. When he first started playing I had friends who jeered him unmercifully and often unfairly . In fact he’s a more than useful player . Good height against tall key forwards . Lovely kick. Only 24. Are you certain we will get someone more useful ? I find it interesting comparing him with Lever who DOES look the part but who makes howlers every game, three in a row costing immediate goals against, from memory, Gold Coast. Who often panics and handballs to nobody. Yet because he looks ok and, let it be said, defends pretty well when he has no opponent, no-one calls for his sacking like they do for Oscar . He’s been most unfairly treated on this site and elsewhere

Exactly!!! Take Josh Wagner. In my opinion excellent recruiting. He was overlooked in two drafts . We picked him as a mature age rookie. How many mature age rookies play as many games as he did. And he played some very good games. He was never in our best 22, nowhere near it , but he was a bloody good backup on the HBF. Our latest recruiting has made him superfluous ,he would understand that . Anyone can select excellent kids from the first two rounds of the draft. It’s the ability to get value from the lesser known selections which demonstrates good team management

DD, being bored last night I watched the second half of both of our winning finals in 2018. I suggest you do likewise. If u do I think u may agree there is no way we should delist OMac and neither should we trade TomMac . Give them both specific targets over the summer then see what they can do in 2021

Some of his defensive efforts are still poor. In the first quarter he allowed Ridley to mark out on the boundary line with a very half hearted attempt to spoil by the Weid

Judging by what the players, and Goodwin himself have said, that was precisely the instruction. The teams were exhausted yesterday, again Goodwin mentioned that our blokes were b——ed in the last quarter. Percentage wasn’t an issue

Does it?Is there anything Goodwin could say at the presser that would satisfy u? it was a TERRIFIC interview .He mentioned undoubted strengths in the backs. Mentioned that we are still young up forward and need more - was entitled to mention that we’d jumped firm 17 to 9. Steely reserve to go ok v WC , if we get there which is hardly surprising as we’ve beaten them twice in our last 4 encounters. Talked glowingly about Tracc while mentioning the players around him. by comparison with a Malthouse, Clarkson or Longmire thiswas excellent stuff

Well Doc, he is being criticised for our recruiting of Tomlinson. I agree, it is irrational . But if he was wrong about To linson , and it’s only a partial disappointment, Then he must get credit fot the other 4

And his recruiting of Langdon, Jackson, Kosi, Rivers. No credit for that?

Ok. So Plapp and Richardson know nothing?

U do realise this is only the 4th last quarter we have lost out of 17?

Pre season I heard one of those discussions with Plapp and Richardson in which they mentioned Smith’s “ freakish skills”. Then, in R1 v WC he went for a couple of speckies and allowed easy goals . I think the “ freakishness” has been drummed out of him for this year. But I would persist.He is a lovely build and I think he is learning defence. He had some good moments v Cameron last week. He’s actually played v little footy

Exactly!

That’s right Buzzy, have a shot at Goodwin. If we don’t make finals we nevertheless win 9/8. Means Goody has a favourable win / loss ration three years out of 4. What were the coaching records of Hardwick, Bomber Thompson and even Clarkson after 4 years. tell me Buzzy and all you Goodwin knockers— what precisely is wrong with his Coaching ? He did make one awful blunder in team selection for the Freo match but otherwise I’ve seen little wrong And Buzzy you are not happy about Tomlinson.. I’m not excited either.But I’m VERY excited about Langdon, Jackson, Kosi and Rivers. If u want to blame Goodwin for Tomlinson how do you rate his other three selections . And I rate the fact that the players rate him

Give it away. He has been simply awful

But the bottom 6 vary from match to match.Hannan is down in form but at his best is a good player. Spargo was great v Cwood. Kosi is in a flat spot . Every team, in every match has 6 out of 22 who do not rate well. The key is that your bottom 6 should not be hopeless . By and large this year our bottom group has paid its way. I think we have considerable depth. Look at Wagner and Brown. Serviceable at least

Watch the Steven May interview mate,

Just get over your preconceptions mate. He played well

There are different levels of concussion.Did he suffer several? If he’s contemplating retirement I can’t see the point of training . I very much hope he is not too bad and might be able to give it a go.depending, of course, on medical advice

This poor guy was a pretty good player,I was pleased he came to Melbourne. Then we learn he has concussion, well over a year ago and he is just listed as Indefinite . does anyone know any more? You don’t give up on a bloke like this, if there is any possibility he can play again . Is he at the club? Was he in the gym?

Still think so? Watch his games in the 2018 finals where he had a real influence. I agree, disappointing since but he was good v North now what about telling us about Koladjashnij ? Is he at the Club? Training ? Decent player if he can get over the concussion

Young/ Jackson. You say we needed a HBF?Really? Still not sold on Pickett? Listen to Healy and del Santo But my principal beef is your judging our recruiting by reference, often to rookie picks or v low draft picks . I’d like to know what is the average number of games played by rookies— at any club. Buggerall I should think . If any AFL player plays more than 50 games it is a recruiting success, unless he’s a first rounder . How can the recruiting of McDonald at 53 be regarded as a failure? Kent wanted to go to St K. He had been often injured ( and still is) . I liked him but what was his trade value? When Tyson was recruited we needed him badly. We were at rock bottom, he gave us a number of v good seasons and anyway, wasn’t he a package with Salem? Can Taylor be blamed for Koladjasnij’s concussion. .?He was a v good player at GC . Petty an error? How on earth can u say that after his games last year? Wagner, a rookie, has played some serviceable games and I bet he plays some this year. V good rookie pickup in my view . And Weideman a fail.Really?

Still think it was a mistake to get Jackson? If u do then every Demon supporter would disagree with you. I reckon he may we’ll win a Brownlow . And I reckon he, Kosi, and Rivers will play 200 games. Anyone disagree?

Where do we find the Jordon Lewis piece?

And I think that’s a real B S Line . I see no evidence