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If we get Dillon Stephens, I don't give a stuff! Watch his highlight package, fast, kicks great goals. Exactly what is needed

Exactly. This is the best post I have read for some time

Why go past Stephens if available.? Genuine pace, lovely disposal, kicks a very good goal. if he can be got at Number 3 I would be delighted

These senior coaches don't teach skills do they? By the time a kid is recruited he must have the skills. Then teach tactics, game plans etc. why don't we accept that we haven't had a high draft pick for some years. The newbies we played this year were not exactly high-flyers. They were deficient in skills, otherwise they would have been higher in the draft. But they filled gaps left by senior players, and they were not up to it. Inevitably one or two will make it, look, eg, at Harmes. in 2020 we will have one ( at least) exciting new talent. More importantly, if each of TomMac, May, Lever, VDB, Hannan, Joel Smith are available following a decent preseason , if Viney and others who largely played this year but didn't have a preseason, then you will see an infinitely more skilful team

I think this is the example which shows there was NO conflict of interest. It is well known that Jack and Ollie were great mates, yet the decision was to recruit Toumpas who was disappointing.

I disagree. Pies needed to win by 10 goals. Considerable angst on their bench and coaching area

If u r rating Lever today, u r not watching the bloody match. He is awful. Oscar is better!

The players don't give a stuff? Really? You saw it tonight and thought that? I can't believe it. They were outclassed. Close to the weakest team on paper that I can ever remember. Guys like Baker and Kennedy Harris ( who didn't play well) nevertheless gave it a red hot go. Fritsch played well, Petty showed a lot, even Wagner had his moments. And at half time we trailed by 3 points. Cameron Ling's comments about Richmind in the wet are dead right, we weren't up to it but no-one wasn't trying

And just to add to the above. That is why Fritsch had to play back for so many weeks. secondly, when our stars were all up and running last year, some ordinary players looked ok. Oscar played a number of good games, ANB was pretty good, even Spargo held a place in a prelim final team. Hannan was often excellent. when the stars are missing the second and third tier players look v different

"Our backline is fully stocked" But 4 of them are half fit at best. They have barely played together all season . And some weeks none of May, Lever, Jetta and Hibberd were unavailable. Of course they have not yet meshed

Usually does. Ordinary disposal

Another superb kick by ANB, gives us a goal in the third! Great pass to Fritsch

Well you ignorant moron, he's made brilliant moves thus far in this game. Lewis v McGovern, did you foresee this? Has it worked?

ANB had a very solid last 20 minutes

No room for Fritsch? Some had him B o G

U are dead right! He is a genuine forward. As soon as he gets it he thinks " goal". Others such as ANB do not, they instinctively think " who will I give it to" Baker disappointed me once yesterday, had the ball 40m out, slight angle, I was screaming at him to kick it, but he tried an impossible pass. Team play is to be commended but if the chance presents itself---/

Players lazy. Don't give a stuff? You have to be joking. You , Picket Fence and other haters go and watch some other sport.. the absurd aspect is that if Weideman's kick had been a goal none of you knockers would have bern writing the crap you now are. every player tried his guts out, every player was bitterly hurt. When Melbourne was easily the best ream in 1955, they kicked 5.15 then 6.16 then 8.18. Surprisingly enough they lost all three matches. It happens to every team from time to time.

Deemania you r dreaming!

J Wagner and Fritsch are decent AFL players. Fritsch is a genuine forward having to play back because of injuries

How many games has Petty played? Three? Yet you dills give up on him. What did Tom McD look like after 3? its the same really with Kielty. Has hardly played. You give guys like this a decent go before you write them off. Don't You?

Goodwin had another shocker at selection! Problem with this statement is that when they picked the team it was forecast to be wet. Cold and showers. Preuss would have been useless if so.

If u think this team isn't trying, u r not watching

Well he was better than OK I thought, but he MUST develop his kicking on the R foot. Every time he turns back onto the left he either falls over or is caught.

Well surely you can see the problem. Last year, most of the time he was playing alongside Hogan. Weideman hasn't made it, so Tom McD is the only tall forward we have. He attracts the best defender each week. And yes, he is not in great form. He tried bloody hard as he always does

Well, bugger it! It's boring to set this out but some of you need to read it. Add the following to the team and what does it look like? Hibberd, Jetta, Salem, May, Lever, Hannan, , Vandenberg, Koladjasni , Joel Smith,