Farmer

Fantastic, and it’s only a couple of years ago. Didn’t suit the NM list at this point but could be v handy for the Dees

Last week on the ABC Mick Malthouse said that he was stunned that MFC got Brown so easily, and that he thought Brown would make a big difference to to the Dees

U are correct. His wife was . But he adopted Tassie and dominated football there.i think he captained the only Tassie team which beat the Vics in 1960. There must be footage of him and his dropkicking

It shows that I am seriously old. None of you have mentioned Stuart Spencer. Melbourne champion rover from 1950-56. Drop kicked it 65 metres every time on the left foot. I saw his first game v Carlton R1 of 1950 and he was my hero thereafter, till he left to operate a service station in his native Tassie . Best rover in the VFL, twice winner of the Bluey, yet he left for the money. In his biggest games v Collingwood was Thorold Merrett, who kicked the most lethal stab kicks . The year after Norm Smith was sacked, must have been 1966, Max Walker took a mark 50 metres out and slotted a goal with a drop kick. I recall it well because Smithy was sitting a few seats away and he forecast that Max would kick it . So despite Barassi, Dixon etc and the suggestion that coaches frowned upon the drop kick It was still being used as an accurate kick for goal at that time. And now for a curve ball.!!! Have any on this site watched Reece Hodge kicking goals with place kicks for the Wallabies?Sure he missed a couple of critical ones v Argentina , but he slotted one from 55m and his overall accuracy was 80 percent plus. I’m certain the place kick is the most accurate of all. It makes sense. The ball is stationery when one kicks it As the Coodabeens would say “ just think about it”?

And a beautiful, precise kick, either for goal or to a leading forward

Settle down mate. The team which Roos handed over played a prelim final two years later. We handled Watts perfectly well, and got, effectively , a good deal for Hogan. And then recruited BRILLIANTLY this year

Do it now!

I think this is fair, and I agree. For whatever reason, he drops a lot of marks he should take

Mate, by R 3 Tom McD will be playing CHF and Weideman will be playing FF at Casey !

He kicked 50 goals plus, having missed the first 5 games due to injury

Bloody hell! Petty at CHB?The club want to play him forward

Crap defender? Bloody nonsense. He was third and 5th in our B and F as a key defender. A weakness in short passing out of defence but an excellent defender otherwise . Did much more for us in defence than Lever has done thus far

Well let me put a different perspective. We must assume that BB plays full forward . Where does Weideman play? CHF? Perhaps, but he’s not played there thus far. In prior years Tom McD was not a one trick pony. Sure, he was a strong mark, but he got many disposals on the ground. I’m very happy that Tom MCD might have to fight for his position , but so should Weideman . And so far as our defence is concerned, IMV he is the ideal tall defender. And we need a third tall if Lever is to do better. I regard Lever as a major disappointment so far

They Were great days. I saw Stuart Spencer’s first game in 1950 ,thereafter he was my absolute hero. I recall the Adams/ Healy clash very clearly. We were marginally in front in the last quarter of the 1955 GF when Adams came on as 19th man and headed straight for Healy. Healy had the ball and was bouncing it down the outer side of the centre. Because he was carrying it, every eye was on him. Adams simply crashed into him without any evasive action or attempt to grab him so their heads clashed . All of the 100,000 at the ground saw the incident which was sickening as both players lay motionless on the ground until both were carried off. Bluey was a marginal player that year, but he became much better than marginal . Spencer left after the winning GF in 1956, because someone offered him a Service Station in N Tasmania!!!! He later said it was a terrible mistake. . Spencer was undoubtedly the best rover in the VFL , taller than most, with a raking left foot kick . But when he left , Bluey became the second rover, alongside Ian Ridley. we were thrashed by Footscray in 1954 GF but thereafter won them all, until and including 1960 , apart from the infamous 1958 blood bath. Then we won again, with a far less superior team in 1964. That was Norm Smith’s greatest coaching triumph . Baker is bigger than was Adams and his hair is not as red. I hope he makes it, he tries v hard .

Yep that’s right. In one year we recruit Jackson, Kosi, Rivers, Langdon and Tomlinson but you say Mahoney is a dud?

He wasn’t at CHB. Lever was .Tomlinson playing as the third tall

Tmac, Hore and Tomlinson are three v different players. Would u play either Hore or Tomlinson at FB or CHB? Of course not! Quite frankly, we would get better value out of Lever , if he wasn’t playing a key position. If TMac recovers his 2018 fitness and we have let him go, we will regret it . He’s only 28, not a has been

Ten days ago we were tipped as likely to pick up Smith and Ben Brown. Both costly acquisitions , but the Smith deal is not happening, so that likely expenditure is not a worry. In these circumstances, in my view it would be madness to let Tom go. If he doesn’t recover his extraordinary forward line performance of 2018, the fact is that he was a first rate defender in 2017. What happens if, eg, May breaks a leg in R1? McDonald, in form, offers so much to our list . An excellent character , highly regarded by his peers, I would be gutted if he goes elsewhere .

Treloar is no wingman. He’s a dead set rover. Was a gun three years ago but I dunno if he is now. Seems to have lost a little speed

No outrage whatever! Just a healthy disagreement. I don’t regard Weideman as a bad player but I think he has proven to be disappointing. But if Brown, who is purely and simply a FF, comes to Melbourne, where does the Weid play? He also is a FF. If you say we have to play Weid at CHF, where does Jackson play? My point is that Tom McD offers much more versatility . Say May breaks a leg in R1 ,Tom can play back , he was a bloody good defender before going forward in 2018

Must say I thought I was talking about Tom McDonald. Don’t know how the issue of Oscar marking his opponent crept into this thread . Which of you think that Weideman will EVER kick as many goals in a season as Tom did in 2018? Tom was nearly knocked out v Geelong this year, , stayed on the ground though clearly hurt , took a huge pack mark and kicked a goal in the last quarter that started a run which nearly won us the game.Sorry, but I’ve never seen Weideman do any such thing

So you think that at some point Weideman will kick 50 plus goals in a season ? He had a good run of games this year, barely got a kick in the last few . The bloke we are apparently happy to let go, has already done it . Let's see what Tom ‘s “ new shape” produces , madness to trade him out .

I’d like Weideman to do all sorts of things, perhaps with another club! I’m doubting our investment in him will pay off. FWIW I would retain Tom while trying to get Brown . The Weid would be very tradeable

Certainly can. That’s why I am keen

When? Which match? a lot depend on what one makes of Tomlinson. Lever does not play as a key defender. Never has, he didn’t at Adelaide where Talia and Brown were the key defenders. Lever can, nevertheless be useful if given little responsibility on a gun player . Can Tomlinson play as a key defender? Or Smith? Perhaps Petty will be the man. I haven’t minded Oscar playing a purely defensive role on a tall forward