ManDee

Welcome to the loony farm Dom. I thought we should have kept him. I am happy he played well. As for biggest list management failures of our history, well that is quite a stretch. He would probably have to win 2 Norm Smith medals and a Coleman and a Brownlow to beat some of our doosies.

DC, careful discussing personal matters, without DNA, eyewitnesses and photographic evidence. My opinion on Mitch Clark is that he wanted out of Brisbane (not alone there) then we gave him a better offer. Going to Geelong in my opinion was a mutual agreement based on something.

Based on.. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/port-leaders-travis-boak-and-hamish-hartlett-hammer-ridiculous-rumours-of-rift/news-story/c9ca6d3198e88ae7900aca73079970a7 A document. Get it? Edit:- Not directed at Nasher

Beam me up Scotty.

I quoted a newspaper article. You I believe misquoted Nasher.

You are so combative. Stuie, many a true word is said in jest. Hartlett said Boak may have been around his girlfriend. He then retracted it. Both Boak and Hartlett broke up with their partners soon after. Hartlett is now on the market, read between the lines or not, but something is fishy don't you agree. And for the record I place no blame on any of the parties if something did happen, that is life.

Based on.. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/port-leaders-travis-boak-and-hamish-hartlett-hammer-ridiculous-rumours-of-rift/news-story/c9ca6d3198e88ae7900aca73079970a7 A TONGUE-IN-CHEEK joke at a sponsors’ function by Port Adelaide vice-captain Hamish Hartlett that his former girlfriend “might have got around (Travis) Boak” has led to a series of damaging and false rumours about their relationship as teammates — and mates, they say. “It’s become ridiculous,” Boak, who is Port’s captain, told The Advertiser on Monday. The Power leadership pair dismissed claims they are at odds — and have split the team base — since Hartlett said he had amicably ended his relationship with Lauren Jones, while Boak has also recently ended his relationship with his own girlfriend, Renee Barendregt. Boak said: “There are now about five or six different stories about us — and none is right.” Hartlett added: “Each week, almost every day, it is, ‘Have you heard the latest’. It has become laughable how this has developed into something that is not right. It began as a throwaway line — but it is now beyond a joke.” Boak, 27, is believed to have split with Ms Barendregt just before the AFL season started. The former couple, who started dating in 2012 before taking a break, had reconciled in 2014. Port captain Travis Boak with ex-partner Renee Barendregt on the red carpet for the 2015 AFL Brownlow Medal presentation. Neither Boak nor Hartlett wanted to comment on their private lives or ex-partners in the media. Hartlett, 25, traces the unsavoury commentary on his relationship with Boak to a “tongue-in-cheek” remark he made at a players’ sponsors function this month when he played the audience for a laugh. “At that stage, my partner and I had a very civil breakup of our relationship,” Hartlett said.

How do we know fact from fiction? Certainly the media are guilty of making things up. How do you know that some posters aren't posting facts?

Nash, is it OK to talk about Mitch Clark & depression? Is it OK to talk about Scully and his family? Is it OK to talk about Damian Martin and his chopsticks? Is it OK to talk about Paul Roos going to Hawaii?

They only showed the top 5 in the Age. Petracca 2, Mills 49 and Oliver 1 vote, seriously. I'll take my two players for 3 votes Vs Mills any day and he only received 46 more votes than them or is that 15 times as many votes!.

The rising star votes THE VOTESMills 49 Daniel 41Weitering 26Parish 19Moore 9 Really, no MFC players? from the AFL site today. 2016'S RISING STAR NOMINEES RANKED BY THEIR AVERAGE AFL PLAYER RATINGS* Player Club Position Matches Ratings total Ratings avg Christian Petracca MELB Forward 17 196.0 11.5 Peter Wright GC Key forward 17 188.1 11.1 Orazio Fantasia ESS Forward 19 193.4 10.2 Clayton Oliver MELB Midfielder 13 130.1 10.0 Caleb Daniel WB Midfielder / forward 20 198.1 9.9 Jade Gresham STK Forward 18 168.9 9.4 Callum Mills SYD Defender 20 186.8 9.3 Darcy Parish ESS Midfielder 20 184.1 9.2 Connor Blakely FRE Midfielder 15 135.9 9.1 Jacob Weitering CARL Key defender 20 179.0 9.0 James Harmes MELB Defender 19 169.9 8.9 Blake Acres STK Midfielder / forward 16 142.5 8.9 Oscar McDonald MELB Key defender 15 131.8 8.8 James Sicily HAW Forward 21 181.9 8.7 Lachie Weller FRE Forward 22 183.1 8.3 Tom Papley SYD Forward 16 129.7 8.1 Daniel Rioli RICH Forward 18 136.1 7.6 Darcy Byrne-Jones PORT Defender 20 148.8 7.4 Darcy Moore COLL Key forward 17 118.0 6.9 Josh Dunkley WB Midfielder / forward 13 73.3 5.6 *Min 10 games

From http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/lachie-whitfield-case-graeme-allan-faces-allegations-texts-were-deleted-20160830-gr4xi1.html "The AFL, which has known about the allegations for almost 15 months, will now hand details of its lengthy investigation to the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority. .......... Both Collingwood and Brisbane were informed by the AFL several months ago – when they were interviewing Allan and Lambert for positions at those clubs – that there was an ongoing integrity investigation involving the pair. Both reportedly told their new clubs they would be cleared of any wrongdoing. " Disrepute...mmm do you remember tanking... not guilty but....MFC guilty of bringing the game into disrepute. If there was nothing here and no evidence it would have been cleared up by now. Lots of talk about deleted texts etc. And although you suggest it is a cheap pot shot by an ex, she has said that she worried about him. If only some of the Essendon players partners were worried. They are now. PS, How are the rose coloured glasses going, my hat is fine thanks.

Mach5 may I posit, 1 Suspected of avoiding possible drug test - 16 month investigation would indicate probably true 2 Taken illegal drugs - 16 month investigation would indicate probably true 3. brought the game into disrepute...??? - No doubt here. We are talking about it, it is in the papers...True Weirdly it's been know about and "investigated" for much of this year, yet won't be resolved till after the finals...True Blows my mind how corrupt and blind the AFL have become. ...What more do you need, Essendon, Carlton, ... True

No penalties to the EFC subsequent to the players being found guilty. The penalties you refer to are for governance & duty of care failures in 2012 handed down in August 2013. The players were found guilty in January 2016. What penalties have been applied to the club since the guilty verdict? NONE!

More of a Pontiac man myself.

They have received no punishment for implementing a program that led to 34 players being found guilty of using PED's. Indirectly they have been without 10 players as a result of the players ban, but the club were rewarded with extra players outside the salary cap and 1st pick in the draft.

Elite sportsperson disappears and misses a game to avoid possible test. Yeah right, that will be private.

Good, send some to Stuie

Case closed

Single malt?

I've been to Wangaratta best you try Aleppo. The falafel is best no shatta.

How did you get the carrot out?

In the players work contact they have agreed to testing. They did not have to. Given that they have all signed contracts agreeing to the testing what is the problem with them being tested? Other workplaces have testing, perhaps more should. The point is once tested and being found to have broken the law what do you do? Surely this was a consideration of the players prior to signing. PS:- I did not say players should be tested. But given it is a condition of employment they have agreed to why not. I do think there should be more testing in society generally, like doctors, nurses, taxi drivers users of heavy equipment etc. personally I would have no problem with being tested. I have no problem with testing of drivers, do you?

Conversely 1 A worse kick than Watts 2 Can't Ruck better than Pedo 3 Can't Mark better than Jesse 4 Is a better bet than Dawes - OK 1 out of 3 Case closed, don't get him!