deanox

the thing with north and the mfc, is that the small crowds usually consist of the quality fans - the ones who come to many matches not just one or two. these fans are not likely to be affected by the GP, because they like to watch their footy team. A club with lots of fans also has a larger increase in less committed fans who may be more swayed by other events. i would think that we would only lose a few thousand at most (2-3 maybe) while a big game say hawthorn collingwood, could lose 10K

i thought you worked where your employer asked you to? if a player was playing for geelong, the would have to move that way, or travel there everyday. if st kilda is based out there, that is their work place.

them apples were just fine goose. :D the info at first was fine. maybe you talked to him, maybe you didnt. maybe he lied to get rid of you, maybe he wasnt even brent prismal. but what makes you a goose is the way you came back here and carried on, BEFORE it was a done deal.

beanpole normally means super skinny doesnt it? he is listed at 98kgs which is reasonable, even if he is very tall..

search the message boards for adam thompson. he has been discussed. twice. and there is good info in there. fwiw he wanted to leave SA.

i would be keen, but not the day before a couple of exams. sorry.

as long as you're not too sick to play tomorrow.

because he will nominate for the PSD not for the national draft.

what ever he nominates must be included in the salary cap, whether that is what he is actually paid or not. so im not sure if carlton could afford him in the PSD, given that they couldnt pay him through other avenues...

im not going to argue with you there. HOWEVER, it also wouldnt surprise me if he was successful. he doesnt have the speed, or the spark or some of the abilities of others. but what he did have was an uncanny knack for the goals, and he seemed to read it alright off the pack. he needs to chip in for 1-2 every week and he has done his job. PS that being said im certainly not writing him off, it just wouldnt surprise me if he fails to live up to the hype and just becomes a solid small forward. and it wouldnt surprise me if there was only room for 2 of davey, wonna and maric in the team in the future.

ARGH! vomit. what is wrong with all you people?

yeah all he needed was a preseason in the gym. he couldve been a superstar. what a side we would have had now hey? brown, ward (we really need his pace now!) and fergerson in our back six. god thing we got rid of them, we wouldn't have had first pick this year!

one of the worst written posts in the history of demonland.

:D

so if green hasn't signed by tomorrow do we just go on ahead and trade him? we cant afford to have him not sign and not traded by the end of this week, where he has all thepower - sign this contract or i walk into the PSD. the PSD nomination should close by this Friday aswell, so that everyone is on equal footing regarding who goes where. you need to make a decision or you dont play next year.

what about the 'we'll trade pick 19 for warnock' just to [censored] carlton off. take the paper work say we'll look over it, then change our mind at the last minute, too late to trade to carlton and then snare him in the PSD? lol carlton wont offer their first round pick, and if they do they deserve to be screwed.

deestroyers. i dont believe he was in the pub. he had just had a knee reco and most likely was not out drinking that night. everyone knew he was keen to leave geelong for oppertunity sake, and we hold all the cards, so we were always going to make a play for him.

true but it is interesting nonetheless.

dee tention. can you take the week off posting on this forum? you are really starting to detract from everyone elses enjoyment of the place. and that goes for any of you who feel the need to write 30 posts each day, answer every topic 5 times, reply to your own threads and posts repeatedly and argue with people when you have no idea and the other person clearly does. oh and if you have started more than 3 threads on the first page of messages you are wasting everyones space and time. just because you thought something, doesnt make you right. give it up. all of you. and stop posting rubbish.

see you later green. if you wanted to play for the red and blue you would have signed. good luck where ever you go. but its not us trading him off, its him asking to leave. and i hope we get a great kid for you.

Check out this comparrision on jamar and mark seaby (2008 stats). Jamar vs Seaby

yeah exactly. the 2-3 who can dominate can be very influential. but most can't. its funny how we can find 25 effective forwards, similar effective backs. bags of effective midfielders, but you can count on 1 hand how many successful ruckmen there are in the league atm. my question is, how influential can they be? i mean, the price you need to pay to get a great one (high draft picks or players in trades), is it worth getting a ruck, or should you focus on a star mid or forward, who is more likely to have a genuine effect on the game and be able to sway results? im not sure that ruckmen can change the flow of a game the way a star mid or forward can. and if thats the case, get yourself a good honest ruckman who can negate the opposition ruckman, and you will probably be almost as well off, and you didnt have to pay for him (and therefore could snare a good player for another part of the ground).

firstly. ruckmen are only important if the opposition have a good ruckman. ie two dud ruckmen cancel each other out, as do two superstar ruckmen. secondly. an average ruckman can be made to look superstar by having a great midfield around him. thirdly. the importance of ruckwork itself has diminished due to the centre circle rule, which means that it is more about negating the opposition than about knocking to advantage. forthly. a good ruckman can impose himself physically on a contest, blocking and shepherding and clearing space for his mids. taking marks in the forward while under physical pressure. conclusion. the key to successful rucking seems to be good contested marking and endeavour and willingness to use your body around the ground. this is why jamar looked *better* this year, especially when compared to jeff white. however he still hasnt reached an appropriate level, and his refusal to kick the ball is embarrassing.

in an article a day or two after the GF, one of the hawthorn staff, recruiting or coaching im not sure, said exactly that. they specifically targetted left footers to artificially increase their kicking efficiency.

i would take that. although i think port would probably be winning. i was going to propose davey and 17 for 4 and thompson, that might be a bit more even. port get a player who could really turn it on for them, and a pick effectively in the first round, while they lose pick 4 and a player who was going to go anyway. quite possible.