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I disagree with most posters sentiments of GWS. Like it or not there is a battle of the football codes going on in this country and im not referring to Rugby or league. It is common knowledge our government incredulously wishes to expand our population to 35million in the next couple of decades. Where are these people going to come from and what sport do they play/watch? - Soccer! If the AFL dosent gain a foothold in NSW and establish themselves as a national code the code will get soundly beaten. Sure, some people long for the days of watching games at vic park or the western oval but i dont. I want a league of highly financed clubs, employing the latest techniques to create world class , elite sporting teams , playing in front of packed stadiums. without big tv rights deals the afl will not be able to survive as we know it. We need as many kids from the entire country playing footy if the AFL is to continue to bag the biggest sponsorship/corporate dollars. I want GWS to turn every Western sydney school kid in to a mad keen footy supporter. If GWS fails, every club, including the MFC, loses out. A lot of people dont seem to get this. What would a rise in popularity of footy in NSW do to the next TV rights negotiations? Without the AFL paying out millions to the clubs how do you think MFC would be able to afford to hire Craig, Misson etc. Where do you think the AFL gets this money from? If footy wasnt such a popular code where do you think the AFL would get the money from. Lets all look at the big picture guys.

We should get David Costabile (aka Gale Boetticher) to sing that song in front of a series of space-related images. That would really get our message through.

• Dan Nicholson the most impressive so far according to DM. • The players are buying in big time; impressed with the work ethic. • A lot of players are realising their fitness level isn't good enough and are pushing themselves. • Discusses drafted players and how they come into the training group. • Mitch Clark may be a week away from the main group, the other rehab guys doing well. • Kelvin Lawrence and Col Sylvia are still struggling with running. • LJ came back a bit short, so they put him with the rehab group initially before throwing him off the deep end (so no he's not injured thank goodness).

There's more than one picture involved here and the one I like looking at is IMO an even bigger picture. I'm all for progress, growth and development but you have to achieve a balance between the profit of the entrepreneur and the good of the environment. I’m not keen on greedy developers who are so obsessed with their bottom line that they wilfully ignore everything else and produce eyesores within infrastructures that pollute and destroy their environment. That’s how I look at the way the AFL and GWS have gone about trying to establish this football club in Western Sydney - like greedy developers not caring or taking into account what happens to the rest of the football environment. Jimmy Stynes famously said, the AFL is developing a system that breeds distrust and encourages young kids to tell lies. But it wasn't just a young kid who was involved in deceit - it's the whole system created to push aside existing member clubs and prevent them from bidding to keep their youngers players and then the sneering contempt from GWS when they announced their victory. Even the compensation packages were sold in a deceptive manner. The first band of compensation might look good on paper and is even accepted by some as fair but it doesn't compensate like for like and everybody knows that. I don't care for the development of the game in the western suburbs of Sydney if greed and corruption are what underpin its introduction into that part of the world.

I don't share your concerns old dee. I didn't like the Fevola situation last season, and that is no doubt influencing my view, but I certainly don't see the Lovett appointment, or even the notion of Casey becoming a quasi Melbourne seconds, as spelling the beginning of the end for Casey FC's competitiveness. Further, if the whole MFC / Casey relationship is taken into account (ie. with the community,schools, junior football etc), I can only see a win/win outcome.

LOL.

WJ there are so many different drafts now and so many conditions about who goes in what order and how many GWS get that my brain glazes over at the mention of a Draft. Some time early in the new year can you tell me what wonderful players we have drafted. they will be very good and we were surprised they did not get picked earlier. No doubt they will be development types that will need to put on weight and they will be ready around 2016. oh sorry I fell asleep typing!

Dave Dunbar is in the back of the photo disguised as a seat

Or why can't the club afford to buy him a pair of training shorts?

What do you get from ripping into people like that? Especially when JCB was simply stating his opinion as evidenced by saying 'could be' and 'I believe.' You're so negative for no reason mate

At least Scully will be stuck there for the rest of his life.

I believe this guy is the most important and worthwhile investment we have made,possibly ever.The team of Neeld & Misson could be the best move we have ever made.Thanks Gary Lyon.

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I feel desperately sorry that the kids have had their lives and probably their education disrupted by this crazy Vlad Folly, but hopefully it is the start of a big exodus from this synthetic artifact. I wonder what out them off most? The awful place, the mad coach, or just the shame of being part of this ....this parody? And I guess their new recruiting guru will be wanting a big fat raise as he tries to sell the unsaleable to some poor kids who just want to play AFL at a real club.

My Guess: AKA: Mark Robinson

I suppose that's because they are a bit short on youth, eh?

I always assumed your nickname was just the a result of an unfortunate encounter with a jellyfish of some kind.

I can't believe there are 8 posts about callouses, and even worse, people still having differing views. Please Round 1, 2012, HURRY THE F-UP!