Brock Mclean vs Nathan Jones

[Yencks 8]

Who is a more valuable asset

[DeeM 42]

maybe Mclean because of leadership but wouldnt wana lose either of them

[beelzebub 23,378]

which is more valuable...a left leg or a right leg ??

[Yze_Magic 3]

I choose Brock Jones, with Nathan McLean a close second

[CARN THE DEES! 14]

Does it matter? Both are crucial parts of the team and missing one is a big blow to the side but having both is pure bliss

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Not gonna be a popular question this...

I still can't get past Jones' limitations... But then with the doubts I've had since he joined the club, he should never have achieved the things he already has, so I'm not sure he'll be the kind of player defined by his limitations, rather he will be defined by his strengths... ie Rob Harvey won't be remembered as a short-arse player with a bad kick, he'll be remembered as a TRUE champion because of his brain, longevity, hard work etc etc... I'm not saying Jones will reach those heights (not saying he won't either ), but hopefully he'll not be known for a shortish up-and-under kick and his small size...

But I digress. I put Brock ahead because of marking ability, ability to stand up in a tackle, kicking penetration, general hardness in the clinches (though I do realise nathan is always the last to get up at the stoppages, always at the bottom of the pack) and mostly the amount he has achieved thus far. McLean's young but has monstered more games than Chunk...

But yes, by gee you wouldn't want to lose either. Would stroll comfortably onto any list in the AFL both of them...

[Yencks 8]

id have to say mclean..i prefer jones simply because he is our next big cult hero...but he still racks up a fair few crucial errors during matches...brock in terms of valuability is better because of his leadership ability, hard work ethic and the way he goes about his football...thats not to say jones could be as good if not better than brock in those assets one day

[Deelicious9 0]

Does it matter? Both are crucial parts of the team and missing one is a big blow to the side but having both is pure bliss

That's what forums are all about you idiot. I hate people that write that crap. If people want to talk about it they can and let them. If you dont care about the topic, dont read it. It makes for good discussion.

Personally, McLean for me. Better skills and a match-winner.

[Jarka 767]

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that at the end of their careers Jones will have achieved more and played at a higher level more consistently.

[CARN THE DEES! 14]

That's what forums are all about you idiot. I hate people that write that crap. If people want to talk about it they can and let them. If you dont care about the topic, dont read it. It makes for good discussion.

Personally, McLean for me. Better skills and a match-winner.

Yes true but half of these threads end up in arguements and i dont like that crap. So if you must know i chose Brock Mclean at the moment but i think at the end of both of there careers Jones will have achieved more. Who knows only time will tell

[demonfanjezza 1]

Hard to say at the present. For now Mclean- I'll wait until their careers are over then make a decision

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

wouldnt it be nice to be having this debate with Sylvia as the 3rd party.... oh well time for bed

[paddo 0]

Tough call...They are both of very high importance to the team. They are similar players - not overly quick, but they put their head over the ball and are capable of kicking goals (which all onballers must be able to do in today's game).

However, I think Jones is marginally ahead. I think Brock's susceptibility to injury will limit his ability to have a prolonged impact throughout his career. Also, Jonesy's bald nut is more likely to attract the attention of the umps in terms of brownlow votes!!!

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,845]

I'd probably say McLean will have the better career if injury is kind to him. Has special leadership qualities on-field (certainly not off-field at the moment) and is one of the rare MFC players that opposition fans highly rate.

But for some reason, I hope Jones has the better career.

We're lucky to have both players on the list.

[Yencks 8]

We're lucky to have both players on the list.

u can say that again...we just need 25 other highly rated players and we are set

[timD 994]

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that at the end of their careers Jones will have achieved more and played at a higher level more consistently.

I agree with you, jarka

[Little Goffy 14,576]

I still think Mclean has greater capacity to break games open. I also think he has an intensity on the field which can shift the mental state of other players, friend and foe. A fierce presence which could be priceless in a grand final, or in a tight game any time.

For me the defining feature of Jones is relentless effort. Not every game has been great, not every clearance has been effective, but he is always in there - you can see so clearly that he never thinks 'that can be someone elses job'. I'd speculate that he will become a magnificently consistent performer hovering among the 'bests' list in almost every game.

Looking into the rose-coloured crystal ball, I see a Norm Smith Medal for Mclean, and five podium finishes in the Brownlow for Jones (Scott West style - though the shiny head might get him the extra 5%).

If I had to pick one to have the flu for a single must-win game, Jones would go out. But I'd be miserable about it.

[faultydet 7,594]

Jones for me.

We dont have any other of his type in the team. How long have we been crying out for a bottom of the pack, ball getter?

Plus, you can only affect games if you are on the field, and Jones has a much better recore so far.

[jacey 333]

Brock for me just.

Love Jones but i still think his kicking is a little iffy at times (especially in front of goal). Another link to his idol Robert Harvey.

Whatever the case, these two boys are the future of MFc.

They'll give everything to the cause or die trying.

[Jarka 767]

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that at the end of their careers Jones will have achieved more and played at a higher level more consistently.

Fcuk me, I didn't expect this to occur so soon

[btdemon 482]

Not a difficult question to answer in my opinion. One is an absolute goer and if we had 20 of him we would be better off. The other is a sook. Which is which????????????

[praha 11,240]

Jones >>>>> McLean

[Jonesy is the next captain 0]

Jones clearly. Brock was a waste of space out there yesterday

[Demon Disciple 12,149]

Jones clearly. Brock was a waste of space out there yesterday

Too right. Jones has gone leaps and bounds ahead of McLean. If he ain't careful, McLean could be looking at a decent stint in the Sandy side.

[Yencks 8]

its funny how i started this topic in early december for something to talk about in the off season and back then it was pretty even but now suddenly after 2 games...nathan jones is clearly more popular