dont saints have a ruckman they got last year that hasnt been used

gardiner from eagles?

king only has 1 or 2 years and clarke only lasted 1 year seems strange pick

Unless they are also paying him $90 a season, he is not free!

I mean free in terms of what they paid Geelong. Obviously I did not mean completely free.

I mean free in terms of what they paid Geelong. Obviously I did not mean completely free.

So I ask again, why get him unless you think you're in a premiership window?

He has 1-2 years left.

The Saints clearly feel that they are one ruckman short of a premiership, which is why they targeted an older, developed ruckman over a young kid like Woods or Meesen. Fair enough too.

So I ask again, why get him unless you think you're in a premiership window?

He has 1-2 years left.

The Saints clearly feel that they are one ruckman short of a premiership, which is why they targeted an older, developed ruckman over a young kid like Woods or Meesen. Fair enough too.

It's amazing just how quickly things change in footy. Halfway through the year I heard Luke Ball say he thought StKilda's list had been vastly overrated in previous years, and yet here they are, trading as if they are on the verge of glory. I would love to know whats really changed in 3 months.

So I ask again, why get him unless you think you're in a premiership window?

He has 1-2 years left.

The Saints clearly feel that they are one ruckman short of a premiership, which is why they targeted an older, developed ruckman over a young kid like Woods or Meesen. Fair enough too.

The same reason they have recruited Knobel, Ackland, Clarke and Gardiner before him, I suppose. Either because they like seasoned ruckman, or they just like picking up washed up old rucks with no knees (in the case of the latter three) or talent (in the case of the former two). I don't think they're any more- or less- in a premiership window than they have been in previous years.

So I ask again, why get him unless you think you're in a premiership window?

He has 1-2 years left.

The Saints clearly feel that they are one ruckman short of a premiership, which is why they targeted an older, developed ruckman over a young kid like Woods or Meesen. Fair enough too.

They are more than that.

Clarke is just about gone. Gardiner is chronically injured and Blake is not good enough. And they want to play Kozi forward too.

Its could be a win win if Geelong have something else they want to do with No 90.

Charlie Gardiner I dont rate. Placings in the VFL B & F are like a fourth in the fifth in midweek Benalla.

Geelong have just ruined their great year by their trading...

Geelong have just ruined their great year by their trading...

i disagree, i think they've got something in return for players they would have otherwise simply delisted, callan, playfair, gardiner, king. they might not have got much, but it is more than nothing. we are yet to see their intentions for these actions i think

It's amazing just how quickly things change in footy. Halfway through the year I heard Luke Ball say he thought StKilda's list had been vastly overrated in previous years, and yet here they are, trading as if they are on the verge of glory. I would love to know whats really changed in 3 months.

the last team that did a massive trade ended up being a big mistake

Carlton 2003

David A Clarke?

Daniel Harford

9 games

brett johnson 32 games

cory macgrath 50 games

digby morrell 32 games

heath scotland 85*current

david teague 50 games

glen bowyer 20 games

ricky mott 2 games

only a few bright lights there

St Kilda just want someone to play ruck so that Kosi doesn't get killed by having to play in the ruck with his fragile body.

St Kilda just want someone to play ruck so that Kosi doesn't get killed by having to play in the ruck with his fragile body.

...by the umpire

Geelong have just ruined their great year by their trading...

Not sure you can ruin a premiership year by trading players who didn't play any significant part in the premiership (except King who would have left anyway). Actually not sure you can ruin a premiership year at all....

I suspect Geelong wanted to get rid of Gardiner (possibly still under contract) and this was a mechanism to delist him without actually delisting him. St Kilda get the ruckman they want, Geelong get rid of a contracted player they didn't want - win/win.

The Saints have had a massive trade week. Kudos to them for their coups - bigger than Judd!

How do they do it?

Expect several delistings from Saints.

Expect several delistings from Saints.

n big line up of saints in the psd

i'm actually surprised geelong didnt make a play for a wood or like player. that second ruck was obviously the position of contention this season...blake is probably not good enough, king is too old, and they want ottens up forward. i thought geelongs first rounder for wood would have been a decent offer that would have strengthened their team for a few years...

im happy they didnt though because we may have got 17 for TJ lol

I think Charlie Gardiner will go ok at the saints. I was interested in us getting him cheap but I'm not too disappointed we didn't go for him.

Geelong would've delisted Gardiner and retired King.

Geelongs just wanted to find them new homes cause they're 'good blokes'.

rhino mate get ur facts straight.. gards is never injusred and hes a good player u watch and eat ur words....

some of u people have no idea...

pik 90

for a premiership ruckman and a very capable 24 yr old who finds the footy ALOT

wake up would you....

Pik 90... when was the last time a pik 90 did anyhting..

i know for a fact that the cats sacrificed them coz they respected them as people and rate them as players....

i wont be surprised if they dont even use that pik

they wanted to find them a home!!!!

....

Pik 90... when was the last time a pik 90 did anyhting..

scott burns

rhino mate get ur facts straight.. gards is never injusred and hes a good player u watch and eat ur words....

some of u people have no idea...

pik 90

for a premiership ruckman and a very capable 24 yr old who finds the footy ALOT

wake up would you....

Pik 90... when was the last time a pik 90 did anyhting..

i know for a fact that the cats sacrificed them coz they respected them as people and rate them as players....

i wont be surprised if they dont even use that pik

they wanted to find them a home!!!!

Michael Gardiner is chronically injured.

Charlie Gardner is Geelong's Ferg who dominates at VFL and struggles at AFL level.

Gee thanks goose it good they get rid of players they rate. Pity they dont pick them in their team regularly.

They squeezed King for No 90 for salary cap reasons

mate u got no idea... go look at chucks stats when he has played afl..... go on and let me know if u think hes better than pik 90...

ur a battler champ!!!

mate u got no idea... go look at chucks stats when he has played afl..... go on and let me know if u think hes better than pik 90...

ur a battler champ!!!

Goose, pick 90 will be used for Adam Donahoe as their father/son.

Charlie Gardner is a one-dimensional footballer. A half-forward who's not a prolific goalkicker, and is incapable of being a midfielder.

mate u got no idea... go look at chucks stats when he has played afl..... go on and let me know if u think hes better than pik 90...

ur a battler champ!!!

I dont have to. I have seen him play and like Geelong I dont believe he is best 22 and is a limited footballer. For what Geelong had to do to their salary cap and list, I think it is was sensible to dispense with a NQR player.