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Farewell Clayton Oliver

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I love Clarry and would rather him stay at the Dees.

But there is a little bit of reflection required when evaluating his value.

Apart from personal issues, it's also clear you can't compare 4 X b&f Clarry to 2026 Clarry.

The game is now a fast transaction game and not a stoppage game.

I agree with king players need to be more than one dimensional.

Clarey needs to lift or find a new home.

 
20 hours ago, bluey said:

Let me say this,

It’s a coaches entitlement to move his chess pieces around the field, like Napoleon.

Exactly. For years we have heard players complaining about where they want to play, Brayshaw included. The coach steers the ship now, not the players.

7 minutes ago, Golden fist said:

I love Clarry and would rather him stay at the Dees.

But there is a little bit of reflection required when evaluating his value.

Apart from personal issues, it's also clear you can't compare 4 X b&f Clarry to 2026 Clarry.

The game is now a fast transaction game and not a stoppage game.

I agree with king players need to be more than one dimensional.

Clarey needs to lift or find a new home.

The game’s evolution from stoppage based to transition based is overstated. These things always go in cycles and teams who are consistently good in stoppages generally finish in the top half of the ladder.

And regardless of the type of game we’re looking to play or what becomes the trend in the comp, I still don’t understand the popular opinion that Oliver is a one dimensional inside mid. Even this year he’s our only good two way running genuine mid and at his best he was just about unparalleled in defensive midfield statistics. Even at 80% he’ll be a big loss in this area.

 
5 minutes ago, 0livers Army said:

The game’s evolution from stoppage based to transition based is overstated. These things always go in cycles and teams who are consistently good in stoppages generally finish in the top half of the ladder.

And regardless of the type of game we’re looking to play or what becomes the trend in the comp, I still don’t understand the popular opinion that Oliver is a one dimensional inside mid. Even this year he’s our only good two way running genuine mid and at his best he was just about unparalleled in defensive midfield statistics. Even at 80% he’ll be a big loss in this area.

Have U watched him play? His disposal and decision making in open play is horrendous.

I'll trust kings judgement, fell free to pretend he is Naicos


9 minutes ago, 0livers Army said:

The game’s evolution from stoppage based to transition based is overstated. These things always go in cycles and teams who are consistently good in stoppages generally finish in the top half of the ladder.

And regardless of the type of game we’re looking to play or what becomes the trend in the comp, I still don’t understand the popular opinion that Oliver is a one dimensional inside mid. Even this year he’s our only good two way running genuine mid and at his best he was just about unparalleled in defensive midfield statistics. Even at 80% he’ll be a big loss in this area.

I'll rest my case on this point...m go re-watch the last qtr of the st Kilda game. How you miss scoring from that position beggars belief

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

Same boat alright. The Blue Goose

 
3 minutes ago, 0livers Army said:

The game’s evolution from stoppage based to transition based is overstated. These things always go in cycles and teams who are consistently good in stoppages generally finish in the top half of the ladder.

And regardless of the type of game we’re looking to play or what becomes the trend in the comp, I still don’t understand the popular opinion that Oliver is a one dimensional inside mid. Even this year he’s our only good two way running genuine mid and at his best he was just about unparalleled in defensive midfield statistics. Even at 80% he’ll be a big loss in this area.

Bingo. I was just about to say the same.

Clarry's fitness may have been an issue at times over the past couple of years, but his defensive efforts when fit are no worse than most elite inside bulls.


Lamb sounds irritated. Had to drop "learnings" though

Just now, dice said:

Same boat alright. The Blue Goose

👨‍🦰🛥😉 >>>>🧡🏉🩶

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Lamb is decreasing his currency by the minute.

3 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Lamb is decreasing his currency by the minute.

How can we listen to the full interview?


4 hours ago, beelzebub said:

There is a common factor to those being nudged to the 🚪 or those opening by themselves.

Not hard to pick if you take a few steps back and just open the eyes.

Petulance?

12 minutes ago, Demonland said:

If I’m Guerra, I’m banning corporate weasel words like “going forward.” FFS, it’s so overused it’s lost all meaning — pure empty management-speak masquerading as direction. It’s aspirational but hollow, a way to sound in control when you clearly aren’t. Words matter. And Melbourne’s been talking [censored] to itself for far too long.

9 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

If I’m Guerra, I’m banning corporate weasel words like “going forward.” FFS, it’s so overused it’s lost all meaning — pure empty management-speak masquerading as direction. It’s aspirational but hollow, a way to sound in control when you clearly aren’t. Words matter. And Melbourne’s been talking [censored] to itself for far too long.

What are the learnings and deliverables in this space?


10 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

What are the learnings and deliverables in this space?

Thanks for reaching out to me about this @Norm Smith's Curse. It's added a lot of value and you're really taking it to the next level man.

16 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

What are the learnings and deliverables in this space?

Can circle back and touch base later?

16 hours ago, Older demon said:

This is my "What If" throw it out there scenario

Clayton has had 2 ordinary seasons by his standard, and let's say he is on $1.3 M a year. If I were Clayton, I would be worried that I am not value for money and may be shipped off for a salary dump. If I desperately want to stay in Melbourne and at the Melbourne Football Club, I would be talking to my manager to renegotiate a pay cut or a new deal.

No club is going to tolerate a marquee $1.3 M player playing in the seconds for any length of time. Read the tea leaves, Clayton MFC will pay $ 700K a year for the next 5 years if you go. Why not pay me $700K a year, and I stay and work on my game to get better and even play a different role?

why would he do that?

 
41 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Lamb is decreasing his currency by the minute.

Utter rubbish. The rest of that sentence was "...and how we wanted our midfield to operate, where he saw Clayton fitting in with that..."

Pretty important part of the messaging I would have thought.

Edited by Adam The God

15 hours ago, Nietaphart said:

I get more value reading Tom Morris.😡

Reading err no, laughing at...for sure


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