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Hi Gents

A game of 2 halves....again. People won't agree, but I believe this shows we are on the right track, we show what we can do. but that first half was diabolical.

I have three major issues that have bugged me all year (besides foot skills) and wonder if the panel have noticed them as well?

1 - Forward handballs that are so loopy they put the receiver under immediate pressure or turn it over directly to opposition.

2 - Corralling instead of tackling, teams this year have gone hard at the player and trying to knock the ball out as they do, putting on hard pressure and forcing a quick decision from the ball carrier. we seem to sit back and try corral often to the wrong foot (which at this level is unforgivable) and allows the opposition territory.

3 - Our tackling in general, we do not stick important tackles and often barely lay them or get broken easily, needs to be addressed.

I think Thulstrup, Windsor, Lindsey, Sharp now need to go back to VFL for a big chunk or possibly the rest of the year for form and also manage some workloads of the young guys. Give Laurie, Sestan, Mentha a look now. Persist with Jefferson, we have nothing to lose there, he took a couple of great grabs but overall let himself down, but i think dropping him now would do more harm than good.

Also, anyone that thinks Xerri was 100% suspendable and May isn't, has red & Blue googles on! Whilst May couldn't do too much different, what he did was the one thing he couldn't do, was going to be second to the ball even if he was making a play at the ball. made contact to the head, id say that's 3 weeks as well, or 0 with the AFL system which is crazy. Petty into defence now please!

Dees fans, stick it out! That first half was unwatchable, but the second half was good! And if Oliver got that holding the ball like it should have been, well who knows.

🤔🤔 Over ??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Never got bloody going !!!

How do you fix a club that has lost belief in itself?

‘21 we could run through walls, walk on water, win anywhere anytime. Fast forward to ‘25 and we can’t land any punches.

We have the ingredients to take it up to the top teams but we, for some reason, bring a different mindset for the bottom teams.

Is it off-field instability in key posts (CEO/president)? High performance team? Head coach? Line coaches? On-field leaders? Bottom six on game day?

In your humble opinions, how will we get back to the best version of ourselves?

24 minutes ago, Unqualified opinion said:

How do you fix a club that has lost belief in itself?

‘21 we could run through walls, walk on water, win anywhere anytime. Fast forward to ‘25 and we can’t land any punches.

We have the ingredients to take it up to the top teams but we, for some reason, bring a different mindset for the bottom teams.

Is it off-field instability in key posts (CEO/president)? High performance team? Head coach? Line coaches? On-field leaders? Bottom six on game day?

In your humble opinions, how will we get back to the best version of ourselves?

Answer : See other thread 😉

My only comment is that I'm so sorry Andy and share your pain.

Following on from your discussion about set shots for goal, why don't we us Melksham as our kicking coach?

He is the best kick in the team and also had experience under pressure of kicking for Goal

He should just coach set shots

With May destined to be suspended for the rest of the season, would you trial Petty at full back or have Tommy Mac fill that role? Tommy has been accomplished all season, delivers experience and leadership, and is one of the best field kicks in the team. AFL success requires leadership in every line - forwards, mids, defence. With May out and Lever needing to get his body right, we have a dilemma. But TMac is 32 and Petty is just about to hit his prime as a key position player.

Binman and Andy, what would you do?

Love the club.

No love for Simon.

Still believe in JVR (what a great kick at goal he is).

Kozzy is a superstar.

2021 bye, new MFC needs to come in pronto.

Having seen such a dominant few weeks from Kozzie with him attending about 90% centre bounces I can't help wondering how much his absence in the first three weeks queered, as in compromised our season.

We started with a narrow loss to the Giants that probably would have been a win with Kozzie playing even half as well as this week. If that 0-5 start never happened players' confidence and trust in one another would have been so much stronger and a new game style easier to implement and perfect.

Can the panel please discuss?

We must talk about May's big hit on Carlton forward Francis Evans.

We don't want to see results like what happened to Evans, especially if we are serious about eliminating concussion - and we must.

But what gets up my goat is the hypocrisy. Dees players all too often are on the receiving end of severe penalties when the AFL wants make a statement. Remember the ridiculous 4-match suspension on Nibbler for a tackle that was seen every weekend until that point? Remember Kossy was too heavily sanctioned because he had the audacity to be aggressive against a Pies' star who over-egged the incident?

The hypocrisy comes back to the Maynard 2023 incident where our beloved Angus Brayshaw's life was changed forever and was never to play footy again.

May and Maynard as very similar - both fiercely attack the ball.

Yet with Maynard, the AFL made a rule change at the end of he season and he played the next game!

May will not be given the same treatment - and frankly he shouldn't if we are serious about protecting the head.

One pays the price, the other doesn't.

The AFL will pay the price when the massive lawsuit comes.

What I find most amazing is the extraordinary drop in performance in this side . Even in 2022 and 2023 we were a competitive , final playing side - capable of winning against all sides and of having long consecutive winning runs.Goody would like to have us believe that the sheer disastrous team performances over the last two seasons ( close to a cellar dweller) is all part of some well conceived plan- a change of game style etc I don’t buy it any more ( if I ever did) . There is absolutely nothing or little to suggest this team is improving or will improve. This is notwithstanding some individual player performances such as Kossie ‘ s this Season. That’s not pessimism, rather just a rational assessment of our ongoing performances.Goody never , ever accepts any responsibility for the rapid decline of this once Premiership team . Nor do most Senior players. I suspect many of them including Goody will just be happy to be remembered as the team that broke the Premiership drought . They’ve climbed their mountain and are all on a good wicket. Unfortunately since the 1950s this Club has no tradition or culture of ongoing success.

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