PRESEASON TRAINING: Wednesday 5th February 2025

[dazzledavey36 56,241]

I wonder if there is consideration of placing Kentfield on the long term injury list to make way for either of the train on players?

[BLWNBA 1,483]

14 minutes ago, Oxdee said:

I’m thinking jeffo will play round 1. 

JVR, Turner, Jeffo

fritch, macadam, chandler

interchange: melk 

Melk may be in a spot of bother for R1, given he's going to miss 3 - 4 weeks with a hamstring. 

[Ghostwriter 5,320]

Taj absent today because he was “feeling crook” this morning. Nothing serious. He’ll be at training on Friday.

Spaz wearing goggles while training coz he doesn’t want dirt to get in his eye. His eyelid was split during training last week when an unnamed teammate accidentally stood on his face. He’s had plastic surgery (you can’t even tell) and is mindful of keeping it clean.

 

[Harvey Wallbanger 1,379]

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Absent: Tholstrup, Verrall, Kosi, Woewodin and Kentfield. Intel - Kosi having family time.

Rehab: Petracca, Lever, Spargo, Melksham, McAdam, Fullarton, Chandler

Also present:  Train-ons Jai Culley and Roy George plus two young academy/father/sons (sworn to secrecy re the latter)

Activities of Chandler and Trac suggest they are very close to resuming full training - both wore the yellow caps when doing drills (no match sim for them). McAdam indicated to one of his teammates that it may be hamstring again - but he did a lot of full speed running, so perhaps precautionary today. Lever to'ed and fro'ed back to AAMI. Didn't do much at all! Spargs still doing straight lie running but indications of a little more movement than in the last two months. Melksham just lots of medium pace running.

Low-key session with a bit of match sim in the middle. Petty and TMac still training back.

Draftees continue to impress, i.e. Langdon and Lindsay, and don't forget AJ Johnson. Very involved in a lot of the action. Surely all three play against North on the 22nd. A lot of switching in the simulation - fascinated to see who joins Langdon and Windsor, with Sharp, Billings and Lindsay all playing wide roles on the switch.

Hopefully the absentee numbers and rehabbers reduce over the next few weeks such that Spargo and Thosltrup are the only "medium-termers" with a question mark over Kentfield of course, due to his pneumonia.

 

[DeeSpencer 26,659]

29 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

How did Roy look?

Wasn’t heavily involved but looks lean and had a couple of classy moments, his change of direction and confidence in his skills are obvious 

[Harvey Wallbanger 1,379]

Oh and Jed Adams got a huge group clap at one stage - we speculated that it may be a training award of some description?

[Ghostwriter 5,320]

Luker a “strong possibility” to be put on the LTI list. Charles Spargo “no chance at all” to be on that list (I had to ask since he’s still not in full training). 

[Slartibartfast 18,100]

Did we ever find out whether being on the LTI list allows us to select someone in the PS Draft?

[roy11 4,058]

37 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

How did Roy look?

Checked shirt and a greyish tie today.

[Fritta and Turner 4,685]

Another lovely day at the track with a good collection of track watchers.

Kossie, Verrall, Kentfield, Kolt, Woey not in attendance.

Lever, Spargo, Melky, Chin, McAdam, Fullarton, Trac in rehab or a modified program.  Lever went back to the 'sheds' for awhile then came back to ride the bike next to melky.  Chin much better since last I saw but still feeling shoulder.  Trac had the trainer lying on top of him, then got up, win the ball and do some dodging and weaving.

Campbell gives Max a real contest in the ruck. TCs body looking more AFL and Max was moving the best i have seen this preseason

Fritta and Turner looked magnificent, naturally.

Our talls, Roo and jeffo looking good. Roo seems to have his mojo back. 

Billings really stood out, with his run and linkage play.

Langford should play round 1.

Clarry puts on half a litre of sunscreen at every opportunity.  And always doing something with his boots.

Jai Culley looked good, got the appaluse of his team mates.  Had a slight problem with a blister.  Noah Yze was also there with another unknown.  Noah has reasonably broad shoulders but skinny arms.

No sausages.

 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,932]

1 hour ago, The Jackson FIX said:

His insta story seemed to suggest he is somewhere remote/outback with his family

Casey Fields?

[DeeSpencer 26,659]

8 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

Did we ever find out whether being on the LTI list allows us to select someone in the PS Draft?

There is no long term injury list. The pre season draft was in November.

There’s an Inactive List where by a player is medically ruled out for the year and can be replaced by a pre season supplemental selection period that ends on Feb 21 or with the mid season draft.

Unless Luker has lost all physical condition or there’s more going on I struggle to see how he’d be deemed out for the year now due to an illness suffered in January. It could happen, but I’d say the more likely outcome is he’s given a chance to come back and if he’s still no good then he gets shut down before the mid year draft.

[Slartibartfast 18,100]

1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

There is no long term injury list. The pre season draft was in November.

There’s an Inactive List where by a player is medically ruled out for the year and can be replaced by a pre season supplemental selection period that ends on Feb 21 or with the mid season draft.

Unless Luker has lost all physical condition or there’s more going on I struggle to see how he’d be deemed out for the year now due to an illness suffered in January. It could happen, but I’d say the more likely outcome is he’s given a chance to come back and if he’s still no good then he gets shut down before the mid year draft.

Thanks.  My bad re PSD, I couldn't remember the name of the preseason supplemental selection period and call it PS draft!

As Dazzle told me before, best not to speculate; hang on, did Dazzle speculate above?

[DistrACTION Jackson 10,683]

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

There is no long term injury list. The pre season draft was in November.

There’s an Inactive List where by a player is medically ruled out for the year and can be replaced by a pre season supplemental selection period that ends on Feb 21 or with the mid season draft.

Unless Luker has lost all physical condition or there’s more going on I struggle to see how he’d be deemed out for the year now due to an illness suffered in January. It could happen, but I’d say the more likely outcome is he’s given a chance to come back and if he’s still no good then he gets shut down before the mid year draft.

Yes he would have to be deemed to be medically unable to play this season. If it was confirmed now however, we could sign a player before the end of the SSP period on Feb 21.

Here's the laws of the game part covering it:

26. Inactive List

26.1 Inactive List (a) A Club may apply to the General Counsel or Executive General Manager of Football to transfer an AFL Player suffering a season ending injury or has retired from its AFL Primary List or Category A Rookie List to its AFL Inactive List. (b) A season ending injury means an injury or illness suffered by a Player which, in the opinion of the AFL Medical Director, after consultation with the Club Medical Officer, will prevent or is likely to prevent a Player, having due regard to their health and safety, from participating in Matches for the remainder of the relevant AFL Season.

26.2 Approval of the AFL (a) A Player may only be transferred to the Inactive List with the Player’s consent and with the approval of the General Counsel. (b) Where a Club proposes to transfer a Player to the Inactive List, the following procedure shall apply: (i) an Officer of the Club shall as soon as practicable, complete an “Application for Inclusion on Inactive List” in the form prescribed in Schedule 1 as Form 43 (“the Application”); (ii) the Officer of the Club and the Club Medical Officer shall sign the Application, where applicable; (iii) the Player shall sign the Application as evidence of their consent to being transferred to the Inactive List; (iv) the Officer of the Club shall lodge the Application with the General Counsel, together with supporting evidence which verifies that the Player is suffering from a season ending injury or has retired; (v) the General Counsel may in their absolute discretion, approve or disapprove the transfer of the injured Player to the Club’s Inactive List or require such further medical evidence, including without limitation a medical report from a duly qualified medical practitioner approved by the General Counsel, prior to determining whether to approve or disapprove the transfer; and (vi) where the General Counsel gives their approval, the injured Player shall from that time be deemed to be included on the Club’s Inactive List. (c) The transfer of a Player to a Club’s Inactive List under this Rule 26.2 shall not take effect until the General Counsel has notified their approval under Rule 26.2(a). Where the General Counsel does not approve the transfer of the injured Player to the Club’s Inactive List, they shall notify the Officer of the Club and the Application shall be of no effect.

26.3 Eligibility Subject to Rule 26.5, a Player who is transferred to the Inactive List is ineligible to play in the AFL Competition or in any other Australian Football competition for the period 100 from the date that Player is transferred to the Inactive List until the conclusion of the relevant AFL Season.

26.4 Replacement Player (a) Where a Player is transferred to the Inactive List a Club may replace that Player by selecting a replacement player during the Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period or at the mid-AFL Season Draft Selection Meeting. (b) A Club is unable to replace an AFL Player transferred to its AFL Inactive List after the conclusion of the mid-AFL Season Draft Selection Meeting.

26.5 Transfer from Inactive List to Primary List (a) A Club may, subject to that Club having an available List position, make written application in the form prescribed in Schedule 1 as Form 43A to the General Counsel for the transfer of a Player from its Inactive List to the Club’s Primary List or Category A Rookie List in the relevant AFL Season that Player was transferred to the Inactive List provided that the Club Medical Officer or the medical practitioner who has treated the Player certifies that the Player has recovered from their injury sufficiently to allow the Player, having due regard to their health and safety, to play in a Match and such certification is lodged with the application. (b) The General Counsel may in their absolute discretion, approve or disapprove an application under Rule

26.5(a) for the transfer of a Player to the Club’s Primary List or require such further medical evidence, including without limitation, a medical report from a duly qualified medical practitioner approved by the General Counsel, prior to determining whether to approve or disapprove the transfer. (c) The transfer of a Player back to a Club’s Primary List or Category A Rookie List under Rule

26.5(b) shall not take effect until the General Counsel has notified their approval. Where the General Counsel does not approve the transfer of the Player back to the Club’s Primary List or Category A Rookie List, they shall notify the Officer of the Club and the Application shall be of no effect.

26.6 Consultation The General Counsel may consult with the AFL Medical Director prior to exercising their discretion to approve or disapprove a transfer under Rule 26.2 or 26.5

Edited February 5 by DistrACTION Jackson

[Go Ds 301]

1 hour ago, Ghostwriter said:

There’s a drill where Selwyn literally lies on top of Tracc, a trainer dribbles the ball towards them and Tracc has to get up and out from under “the pack” to get the ball and all I can see is that scene from Kindergarten Cop 

Huh? In an Austrian-Yank accent Trac will say "it's not a ru-mour!"

[Ghostwriter 5,320]

26 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

 

Also present:  Train-ons Jai Culley and Roy George plus two young academy/father/sons (sworn to secrecy re the latter)

 

 

Noah Yze was there. As for that second boy who we were told is a father/son and yes, sworn to secrecy, something funny’s going on because Harves introduced me to him and he’s not who we were told he is. Different name, not a F/S 🤷‍♀️ 

[Ghostwriter 5,320]

3 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I don't think a player has to be ruled out for the full year to be on the inactive list

Six months I believe. 

[Go Ds 301]

18 minutes ago, Fritta and Turner said:

 

Clarry puts on half a litre of sunscreen at every opportunity.  And always doing something with his boots.

Jai Culley looked good, got the appaluse of his team mates.  Had a slight problem with a blister.  Noah Yze was also there with another unknown.  Noah has reasonably broad shoulders but skinny arms.

No sausages.

 

He'd probably even get sunburnt opening the fridge door.

Edited February 5 by Go Ds
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[Pipefitter 2,225]

28 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

Oh and Jed Adams got a huge group clap at one stage - we speculated that it may be a training award of some description?

They were doing some marking high ball one on ones at start of training and he owned Jeffo so assuming they must have been taking score.

re: Kosi, a melb admin guy walked past me on the phone saying “nah just personal reasons” assuming was taking a call about it.

Langford kicked some beauty’s in match sim.

Salem and Fritsch ultra competitive in end of training goal kicking practice. Must have had something riding on it.

I was chasing my kids around mostly, so there ends my ordinary training report. Go dees. 

 

 

[Ollie fan 3,671]

Before this short break the vibes from training were fantastic. But There have been a couple of issues over the break, and also our injury list seems to be swelling at an alarming pace.

Is the feeling generally still good and super-enthusiastic?

Edited February 5 by Ollie fan

[Roost it far 10,021]

8 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Yes he would have to be deemed to be medically unable to play this season. If it was confirmed now however, we could sign a player before the end of the SSP period on Feb 21.

Here's the laws of the game part covering it:

26. Inactive List

26.1 Inactive List (a) A Club may apply to the General Counsel or Executive General Manager of Football to transfer an AFL Player suffering a season ending injury or has retired from its AFL Primary List or Category A Rookie List to its AFL Inactive List. (b) A season ending injury means an injury or illness suffered by a Player which, in the opinion of the AFL Medical Director, after consultation with the Club Medical Officer, will prevent or is likely to prevent a Player, having due regard to their health and safety, from participating in Matches for the remainder of the relevant AFL Season.

26.2 Approval of the AFL (a) A Player may only be transferred to the Inactive List with the Player’s consent and with the approval of the General Counsel. (b) Where a Club proposes to transfer a Player to the Inactive List, the following procedure shall apply: (i) an Officer of the Club shall as soon as practicable, complete an “Application for Inclusion on Inactive List” in the form prescribed in Schedule 1 as Form 43 (“the Application”); (ii) the Officer of the Club and the Club Medical Officer shall sign the Application, where applicable; (iii) the Player shall sign the Application as evidence of their consent to being transferred to the Inactive List; (iv) the Officer of the Club shall lodge the Application with the General Counsel, together with supporting evidence which verifies that the Player is suffering from a season ending injury or has retired; (v) the General Counsel may in their absolute discretion, approve or disapprove the transfer of the injured Player to the Club’s Inactive List or require such further medical evidence, including without limitation a medical report from a duly qualified medical practitioner approved by the General Counsel, prior to determining whether to approve or disapprove the transfer; and (vi) where the General Counsel gives their approval, the injured Player shall from that time be deemed to be included on the Club’s Inactive List. (c) The transfer of a Player to a Club’s Inactive List under this Rule 26.2 shall not take effect until the General Counsel has notified their approval under Rule 26.2(a). Where the General Counsel does not approve the transfer of the injured Player to the Club’s Inactive List, they shall notify the Officer of the Club and the Application shall be of no effect.

26.3 Eligibility Subject to Rule 26.5, a Player who is transferred to the Inactive List is ineligible to play in the AFL Competition or in any other Australian Football competition for the period 100 from the date that Player is transferred to the Inactive List until the conclusion of the relevant AFL Season.

26.4 Replacement Player (a) Where a Player is transferred to the Inactive List a Club may replace that Player by selecting a replacement player during the Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period or at the mid-AFL Season Draft Selection Meeting. (b) A Club is unable to replace an AFL Player transferred to its AFL Inactive List after the conclusion of the mid-AFL Season Draft Selection Meeting.

26.5 Transfer from Inactive List to Primary List (a) A Club may, subject to that Club having an available List position, make written application in the form prescribed in Schedule 1 as Form 43A to the General Counsel for the transfer of a Player from its Inactive List to the Club’s Primary List or Category A Rookie List in the relevant AFL Season that Player was transferred to the Inactive List provided that the Club Medical Officer or the medical practitioner who has treated the Player certifies that the Player has recovered from their injury sufficiently to allow the Player, having due regard to their health and safety, to play in a Match and such certification is lodged with the application. (b) The General Counsel may in their absolute discretion, approve or disapprove an application under Rule

26.5(a) for the transfer of a Player to the Club’s Primary List or require such further medical evidence, including without limitation, a medical report from a duly qualified medical practitioner approved by the General Counsel, prior to determining whether to approve or disapprove the transfer. (c) The transfer of a Player back to a Club’s Primary List or Category A Rookie List under Rule

26.5(b) shall not take effect until the General Counsel has notified their approval. Where the General Counsel does not approve the transfer of the Player back to the Club’s Primary List or Category A Rookie List, they shall notify the Officer of the Club and the Application shall be of no effect.

26.6 Consultation The General Counsel may consult with the AFL Medical Director prior to exercising their discretion to approve or disapprove a transfer under Rule 26.2 or 26.5

I’m not reading that. I draw the line at Binmans monologue’s

[DeeSpencer 26,659]

1 hour ago, Oxdee said:

I’m thinking jeffo will play round 1. 

JVR, Turner, Jeffo

fritch, macadam, chandler

interchange: melk 

Right now, I think the likelihood that Tracc starts forward and the emergence of Langford means they’ll go small.

And without Kossie I think we’ll see Langdon in a forward and possibly even a fraction on ball. Sharp looks the favourite to start in the defensive forward role.

C; Lindsay Rivers Billings
HF: Sharp JVR Langdon
FF: Fritsch Turner Tracc
Foll: Gawn Oliver Viney 
Int: Langford, Chandler, McAdam 

Sub: Sparrow/Kynan Brown

Assuming Tracc, McAdam and Chandler are right to go, but we could see Langdon or Sharp slide back to the wing to open another forward spot and we could go tall to spread the load on the big guys.

[Ghostwriter 5,320]

Shane-o has a very slight hammy niggle. Nothing to worry about. He acknowledged he’s greatly improved fitness-wise and is very happy with where he’s at both physically and mentally. He admitted he wasn’t in a good place when he first came to us and said this was largely due to adapting to living in Melb taking a lot longer than expected, and being injured.

I reckon the club’s patience will pay off, and will do so sooner rather than later 👊🏼❤️💙

[DistrACTION Jackson 10,683]

17 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Right now, I think the likelihood that Tracc starts forward and the emergence of Langford means they’ll go small.

And without Kossie I think we’ll see Langdon in a forward and possibly even a fraction on ball. Sharp looks the favourite to start in the defensive forward role.

C; Lindsay Rivers Billings
HF: Sharp JVR Langdon
FF: Fritsch Turner Tracc
Foll: Gawn Oliver Viney 
Int: Langford, Chandler, McAdam 

Sub: Sparrow/Kynan Brown

Assuming Tracc, McAdam and Chandler are right to go, but we could see Langdon or Sharp slide back to the wing to open another forward spot and we could go tall to spread the load on the big guys.

Do you think there’s a chance Lindsay also debuts round 1?

Edit- sorry I missed you had him in the side....

Edited February 5 by DistrACTION Jackson

[DistrACTION Jackson 10,683]

19 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I’m not reading that. I draw the line at Binmans monologue’s

Expecting everyone else to do the hard yards I see? 😂