Call me paranoid but it seems to me that Yze Not So Magic and Condemned 84 are one and the same.

Evidence:

Neither can spell nor construct a sentence properly

They each write gibberish (look it up)

They share the same reactionary opinions despite a great win

They're both attention seeking

'Bruce is the worst kick in the AFL'. (No comment).

Have a warm Milo and go to bed you imbecile.

  BrownlowBruce said:

kicking for goal... hardly matters... every player has the yipps now an then...

so dont give me around that around the ground rubbish...

just a stat,

When Melbourne were dominant early Bruce missed three and Johnson two. If they'd been able to slot most of these, which were all gettable, it would have practically been "game over".

  BrownlowBruce said:

could not agree more... but untill people see this... i will continue to dislike brock more and more

thats what i'm trying to say, what does the only flaw in bruce's game have to do with brock??

  On the Demon bandwagon said:

Give it a rest! Bloody hell, we won, lets focus on the positive. I am not sure what exactly u watch but how can Bruce be viewed as a superstar by other teams, commentators etc but his kicking is [censored]? You are totally clueless

No, there's plenty of clues out there, actually downright solid evidence that Bruce's kicking is [censored]. That's undeniable. That shot he missed on the run in the first quarter was woeful. The other misses weren't really surprising, so far has my confidence in Bruce as a set shot for goal sunk. As another poster said, the most annoying thing about all this is that he used to be a deadly accurate kick for goal and around the ground in the earlier part of his career.

As far as having a big engine goes, not denying that, but why was he played out of the goal square for almost an entire half of football. I will reiterate, Danners coaching baffles me at times.

As I've stated before, I wouldn't miss Bruce if he was traded but while he's a Demon, best of luck to him and I hope his kicking improves.

  maximum bob said:

Call me paranoid but it seems to me that Yze Not So Magic and Condemned 84 are one and the same.

Evidence:

Neither can spell nor construct a sentence properly

They each write gibberish (look it up)

They share the same reactionary opinions despite a great win

They're both attention seeking

'Bruce is the worst kick in the AFL'. (No comment).

Have a warm Milo and go to bed you imbecile.

im most defiantly not the same person, i have never said bruce is the worst kick in the afl.

how am i attention seeking?

so im a imbercile....hmmm nice.

and i wrote this in a earlier thread so its pretty much against what Y_M

lets face it, i love bruce, he aint a superstar, that is bandied around way to much, yes he is a great player on his day a star, today his kicking was atrociuos and he needs to drop the ball closer to his foot, drops the ball way to high.

  classy dees said:

thats what i'm trying to say, what does the only flaw in bruce's game have to do with brock??

he never gets credit when its due,i admit he one of my fav players....and i can admit he has flaws

yet people cant admit brocks....

Clangers are part of Footy ! Thats why they take stats on it. Every player will occasionally do bad kicks and with the pace of the modern game that is more likely to occur.

Everyone noticed Bruce's today beacuse of where he was positioned on the ground.

P Johnson missed two easy shots at goal also, It happens they are human!

Clangers from a few games over the weekend

Roos 34

Saints 46

Cats 53

Crows 46

Dockers 39

Tigers 40

Blues 38

Power 53

Dogs 36

Lions 41

Swans 53

Hawks 60

Bombers 52

Eagles 51

  BrownlowBruce said:

he never gets credit when its due,i admit he one of my fav players....and i can admit he has flaws

yet people cant admit brocks....

At 21 years of age, and with 50 games experience, please list for me all of Brock's glaring flaws?

He isn't perfect, of course not, but saying that you don't like him because other supporters can see Bruce's flaws, is just idiotic.

Classy Dees is spot on, they shouldn't be compared, and the only comparison that is being made is in regards to the captaincy.

And poor kicking or not, Brock is miles ahead of Bruce in the leadership stakes.

  Jaded said:

And poor kicking or not, Brock is miles ahead of Bruce in the leadership stakes.

just a matter of opinion...

i will not settle for BRUCE NOT TO BE the next CAPTAIN

  Deano74 said:

P Johnson missed two easy shots at goal also, It happens they are human!

The difference between Johnson and Bruce is that the first has an accuracy problem that needs to be corrected, the latter needs to re-learn the fundamentals of a drop punt. This is the likely reason why Johnson gets overlooked in favour of Bruce.

  BrownlowBruce said:

just a matter of opinion...

i will not settle for BRUCE NOT TO BE the next CAPTAIN

Gee you're gonna find it tough when Brock is given the captaincy then champ.

  Madness said:

Gee you're gonna find it tough when Brock is given the captaincy then champ.

we will see

Bruce had a dog of a game, as far as his kicking went. Considering he was pushed forward to kick goals, that's a real dog of a dog of a game.

Still does a lot of clever things and you can't doubt his initative.

But damn, 4 behinds, no goals. We would all have been seriously filthy about it if we'd lost.

Still, kicking can be practiced. Bruce's 'x-factor' can't.

If he can get the kink out and stop mangling the bloody thing, he would be right back up there with the pre-crunch Bruce we all loved.

I think bruce will be the big improver against the tigers, very rare he has 2 quiet games in a row and will probably slot 5 straight

I think many are missing the original jist of the thread.

No one is really saying Bruce cant play !!! he can.. & on his day is very good ( not the superstar some would have him...but verygood )..

but ..

MOST of the time he is an absolutely ABYSMAL kick !!

Snap shots...all are forgiven.. thats their nature.. set shots or easy drun ins ought to be second nature !! for a champ ...he cant kick for nutz!! its just a reality

Maybe we are like Jekyll and Hyde

  On the Demon bandwagon said:

Give it a rest! Bloody hell, we won, lets focus on the positive. I am not sure what exactly u watch but how can Bruce be viewed as a superstar by other teams, commentators etc but his kicking is [censored]? You are totally clueless

AGREE AGREE AGREE!

  Yze_Magic said:

[Mod Edit]

i think he disagrees with u... lol

would seem so wouldnt it

simply put bruce has hardly played as just a forward for quite a long time so he is a bit rusty in front of goal i mean crap didnt anyone see that 15 metre shot at goal from cloak now thats sh&t kicking. Perhaps bruce is playing injured too. how many times has he started up forward for an entire half. just my guess he is playing sore. cant afford to leave him out with all our other injuries. May be wrong.

Don't quite understand the whole debate over Bruce thing. He's a key player. Great hard ball getter. We need him. He's Melbourne through and through. I wouldn't say he had a bad day today. Par for the course really. I never expect him to kick a goal from a set shot. If he does its a bonus.

Ofcourse I hurl a tirade of abuse at him when he misses another gimme, but I'm a footy fan. What would you expect?

Truth be told, I don't give a monkey's f if you're one and the same poster.

You each share reactionary opinions and you each emphasise outbursts by posting juvenile messages in UPPER CASE under your posts.

I look forward to some actual analysis of games and players rather than kinder play.

More than happy to contribute to the dialogue btw.

Put up your hands last week if you bagged Cameron Bruce, or the week before? Go on put your hands up, because it's easy to bag a player once they have a down week, he and James McDonald have been out most consistent this year, regardless of whether we've won 2 games or not, they have been there trying their hearts out. Now those knockers can either get behind this club, or you can sit back like a filthy Collingwood supporter and bag every player that has a day off. Go to the snow for gods sake.

BT

  Pello said:

Ironic that Davey was turning the ball over a lot today yet our two worst kicks Ward and Godfrey were hitting targets lace out.

Funny game footy!

Ward still struggled to hit the target a few times - two occassions where he kicked it to a player but failed to hit them up on the full - but Godfrey's goal was absolutely brilliant. I was wrapped for him.

As someone said Bruce's shot was indeed embarassing and Davey just turned the ball over around the middle of the ground more than I've seen him do before.

  classy dees said:

No one should comparing brock to bruce.

Well said.

Anyhow the point-scoring that goes on every single week regarding people's opinions is pretty poor. If X has a good game there's a post calling for the 'X haters' to cut themselves for their sin while if Y has a poor game then we see the opposite. Do we watch the footy for the spectacle and the team or for an opportunity to show someone on the forum up?

It seems to be the Brock bandwagon loves to bag the Bruce bandwagon. I love both but Bruce should be the next captain and Brock to follow him. Bruce is a star and you are a crap Melbourne supporter if you cannot see that