Clayton Oliver

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5 hours ago, deejammin' said:

Yes, they did. Here’s Tom Morris saying Clayton is still live to be going to Geelong AFTER Richo Tim Lamb AND Brad Green all put it to bed. McClure did the same thing. Damien Barrett went even harder and said it would definitely happen on the last day. How right they were! 
https://www.facebook.com/SEN1116/videos/tom-clayton/941809314368544/

He is not saying he would be traded only that it was still on the table. Bit of weasel words to be sure but I'd hardly say this constitutes getting it wrong.

Where did Barrett say it would definitely happen?

Edited Saturday at 02:59 by KozzyCan

[Demon Dynasty 17,165]

All the media nonsense is just click bait guys. 

Barring injury, Claz has set himself for a big year.

The media chimps are just chumps.

The champ is back and chomping at the bit!

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50 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

All the media nonsense is just click bait guys. 

Barring injury, Claz has set himself for a big year.

The media chimps are just chumps.

The champ is back and chomping at the bit!

Disappointed you couldn't fit a "chemp" in there somewhere.

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1 hour ago, gs77 said:

Disappointed you couldn't fit a "chemp" in there somewhere.

As in Shemp from The 3 stooges??

[deejammin' 2,420]

9 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

He is not saying he would be traded only that it was still on the table. Bit of weasel words to be sure but I'd hardly say this constitutes getting it wrong.

Where did Barrett say it would definitely happen?

He’s saying it’s still on the table in spite of every Melbourne leader saying it wasn’t. On the table is still happening. It’s more than weasel words, it’s directly contradicting the MFC. 

Barrett:

After Green and Richo say he’s staying: 

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=383936567988084

After Lamb and Mackie shut it down

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And if you want to trawl through trade radio, if there’s an archive somewhere, I can’t find it, he says 

“I believe Oliver to Geelong still gets done, probably very late in the trade period”

on the 14th of October. You can also trawl the Demonland thread if you wish, it’s quoted there somewhere. 

Enough, it’s over, it was an awful saga for us fans, but the media by refusing to acknowledge senior MFC figures statements, drove a story that was over well beyond when it was done. Mainly at the instigation of GFC in my opinion. 
Let’s enjoy what the footy holds next week. Enough. 

Edited Saturday at 12:46 by deejammin'

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On 06/03/2025 at 13:06, deejammin' said:

You’re absolutely right. Clayton now plays for Geelong, they nailed it!

And those of us who said Geelong and Clayton + management were driving the trade but it would never happen as Lamb, Richo, Green and Goody all put it to bed immediately, how wrong we were!

It’s going to be hell to see him in the hoops this year but at least we have that new very similar looking number 13 who had 3 goals and 28 disposals and looks alright! 🙄🙄🙄

Love this 👏 👏👏

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1 hour ago, deejammin' said:

He’s saying it’s still on the table in spite of every Melbourne leader saying it wasn’t. On the table is still happening. It’s more than weasel words, it’s directly contradicting the MFC. 

Barrett:

After Green and Richo say he’s staying: 

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=383936567988084

After Lamb and Mackie shut it down

Fox Sportswww.foxsports.com.auAFL trades 2024: Trade period day 1 live blog, Monday latest news, updates, Jack ...

Facebook · AFL Trade Rumours, Draft & Offseason News140+ reactions  ·  5 months agoGeelong are... - AFL Trade Rumours, Draft & Offseason News

And if you want to trawl through trade radio, if there’s an archive somewhere, I can’t find it, he says 

“I believe Oliver to Geelong still gets done, probably very late in the trade period”

on the 14th of October. You can also trawl the Demonland thread if you wish, it’s quoted there somewhere. 

Enough, it’s over, it was an awful saga for us fans, but the media by refusing to acknowledge senior MFC figures statements, drove a story that was over well beyond when it was done. Mainly at the instigation of GFC in my opinion. 
Let’s enjoy what the footy holds next week. Enough. 

Yeah because a club has never had a public message contrary to what's actually being said behind the scenes.

Trade period is a poker match, with bluffs and gambits aplenty and clubs will leak info to the media as part of the game. Both sides are hoping the other one folds.

Oliver wasn't traded but it was certainly on the cards. It's fine, it's a professional sport, this sort of thing happens every year.

If you're over the conversation you don't have to respond. 

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8 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

Yeah because a club has never had a public message contrary to what's actually being said behind the scenes.

Trade period is a poker match, with bluffs and gambits aplenty and clubs will leak info to the media as part of the game. Both sides are hoping the other one folds.

Oliver wasn't traded but it was certainly on the cards. It's fine, it's a professional sport, this sort of thing happens every year.

If you're over the conversation you don't have to respond. 

And yet this trade period we didn’t, in fact Tim Lamb didn’t even spin if we were a destination club after the Houston trade fell apart. He admitted we had issues in an open press conference. Goody also is pretty truthful to a fault.
 

Sure, clubs and players lie about trades, Houston is a great example, Luke Jackson etc etc. But it was clear as day that the president, list manager, head of football, coach and even the GFC list manager weren’t bluffing in this case and yet the media continued to build on the story well after all these people made clear statements, leading to the “cleared out his locker” insanity that continues to be ridiculed. Damian Barrett even used the Oliver situation to call us a “mess of a club” AFTER Oliver stayed (note the Shand review stating while there were issues it was hardly as bad as the media were making out).

The reason we are interacting in this thread is you used the idea that Clayton and Geelong were interested in the trade as proof that those of us who believed Green, Lamb, Richo and Goody (and Mackie) and the noises inside that club that Clayton wouldn’t be traded, were somehow wrong, happy clappers, deluded etc. We weren’t, we were 100% right, Clayton was held to his contract and the MFC side was never trading him at any point during the trade period, the Green conversation had already occurred, hence why Lamb and Mackie shut it down day one!
 

I would’ve left it as a simple joke but then you asked me to show my workings and I’ve wasted time trawling through online articles to show you the proof despite the fact most of this happened on trade radio for which there is no searchable archive and is also well documented in the trade thread on here. And yet, even when I send you the links you still reject the truth because ‘clubs lie in trade period’. Cmon mate. 

Edited Saturday at 22:57 by deejammin'

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On 19/10/2024 at 16:36, daisycutter said:

eat ya heart out, shakespeare

 

 

[Redleg 42,147]

If we have a good season this year, watch the player agents sounding us out for their players who want to move clubs.

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9 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

Yeah because a club has never had a public message contrary to what's actually being said behind the scenes.

Trade period is a poker match, with bluffs and gambits aplenty and clubs will leak info to the media as part of the game. Both sides are hoping the other one folds.

Oliver wasn't traded but it was certainly on the cards. It's fine, it's a professional sport, this sort of thing happens every year.

If you're over the conversation you don't have to respond. 

The crux of this asinine conversation was ‘were we keen to offload’ and we just weren’t. How can I tell? 

Oliver is still here.

The rest is the normal amount of noise that trade week brings including agents and players agitating a situation.

The reporters got wind of the agitation but misread our willingness to engage in a trade - they were wrong. 

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On 07/03/2025 at 17:45, Sir Why You Little said:

Eddie is unwatchable on this show 

He comes across as being everyone best mate, but it’s all based around The Filth 

Eddie could go on the tennis circuit where he could stuff that up like his mate who hides on the Footy show with no one to talk to after, during or before the Show.

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On 09/03/2025 at 10:02, Redleg said:

If we have a good season this year, watch the player agents sounding us out for their players who want to move clubs.

jamarrah UH could solve some problems...

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17 minutes ago, biggestred said:

jamarrah UH could solve some problems...

Or contribute to them…