Email from Peter Lawrence

[demon3165 2,718]

11 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

A fish rots from the head.
Bring on the review.

 

Where's the proof, surly you have some to share with us?

[Dante 2,739]

10 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Ok I will try to say this so you understand If you are suing me for something and it becomes legal action would you be talking to me without legal representation being there.

if I knew what you were saying and what relevance it had to what I asked you, I’d be happy to respond

 

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

 

[demon3165 2,718]

Just now, Dante said:

if I knew what you were saying and what relevance it had to what I asked you, I’d be happy to respond

 

 

 

 

Well if you don't understand I cannot help you you seem to think everything comes from a constitution.

[Dante 2,739]

3 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Where's the proof, surly you have some to share with us?

Why are you so against a review? What do you think it might reveal? 
if there are no problems then at least we will have shown transparency 

[Dante 2,739]

1 minute ago, demon3165 said:

Well if you don't understand I cannot help you you seem to think everything comes from a constitution.

Read what you said, it makes no sense, then again it probably does to you. 

[demon3165 2,718]

1 minute ago, Dante said:

Why are you so against a review? What do you think it might reveal? 
if there are no problems then at least we will have shown transparency 

Jesus did you read my reply at all.

[Dante 2,739]

5 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Jesus did you read my reply at all.

No need to call me Jesus, just Dante will do 

Now where did I mention talking to someone with out legal representation?

You’re just looking for an argument, you do whenever this subject is discussed and you get more strident the longer it continues. Why don’t you just finish your drink and go to bed. 

Edited August 28 by Dante

[Older demon 2,741]

Just a question throughout all this vitriol.

Does the club review it entire operation every year? Does anyone know?

Who can comment on the club processes and their outcome? 

Each department and level at the club has to report to the board. There is ongoing data getting to the board every month to however often they meet. Does anyone here believe that the board is shocked at the season outcome or didn't know there was a problem?

Boards at other clubs are determined by the skillset of the individual and their relevance to their board post. You often get invited to join a board it isn't random or open to just any applicant.

Is our club process adhering to best practice? Do other clubs we could benchmark against fill their board positions the same way?

 

[Cranky Franky 2,061]

Go Peter Lawrence. More power to you.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Dante said:

The court ruled that the club had to give him the opportunity to contact the members. If you don’t want him to contact you just delete it and direct any further correspondence to your spam file or unsubcriibe.

That's a cop out. How about he doesn't go to court to get my protected details and he doesn't contact me in the first place.

I am going to be seeking advice of my own today. 

Just unbelievable that my details have been handed to this random.

[Little Goffy 14,546]

This thread is amazing.

[Jaded No More 68,915]

My biggest gripe with this board and administration, is that they’ve let our brand get so badly damaged. 
 

Perception is everything in a business with as much public exposure as ours, and the perception around the MFC for a number of years now is that we are a club with a rotten culture and toxic environment.

Now that may well be false, and I  strongly believe that our culture is no better or worse than any other club’s. 

Every club has in fighting, players who party too hard, staff members who are disliked or doing a poor job. But no other club cops as much constant negative attention as ours does. 

Now it is easy to say to fans ignore the outside noise, but the reality is that this negativity surrounding our club impacts everything. It impacts sponsors and advertisers, it impacts supporter and member numbers, and perhaps most importantly, it impacts our ability to attract top end talent from other clubs. 

For a number of years now we’ve failed to get the players we’ve been after from other clubs. Not thru a lack of trying, but because nobody wants to walk into a fire.

Rightly or wrongly, our club’s board and administration is responsible for the narrative that is out there of our club, and despite our relatively positive on field performances over their time in charge, our brand has never been less desirable. 

Why are we constantly being talked about as having poor culture? Why are we constantly battling multiple lawsuits? Why have we not been able to quiet the external noises of failure that consistently follow our club?

This is the failure of the people who run this club and it’s costing us dearly. 
 

[Jaded No More 68,915]

1 hour ago, Stretch Johnson said:

That's a cop out. How about he doesn't go to court to get my protected details and he doesn't contact me in the first place.

I am going to be seeking advice of my own today. 

Just unbelievable that my details have been handed to this random.

Jesus have you ever shopped online or used social media? Because let me tell you the amount of personal information that random strangers have of you on the internet should be far more concerning to you. 

Peter doesn’t have your TFN and credit card details. He has your email address, the email address you gave the club when you signed up as a member and which you OPTED IN to receiving communication. 
He is not coming to your house at night to have a chat through your window. 
He sent you an email that you can read, or delete, or block. He did that because while you may not be interested, he knows that many of our members do in fact care about what he’s trying to achieve.

I certainly don’t want my board to be run like a dictatorship. I pay a lot of money to be a member of this club and I want full transparency. It is the least we all deserve. 

[pewpewpew 738]

1 hour ago, Stretch Johnson said:

I am going to be seeking advice of my own today. 

Just unbelievable that my details have been handed to this random.

lol. It’s an email account with the ability to send unwanted emails directly to the Spam Folder or Trash. 

[pewpewpew 738]

This club needs an external review from top to bottom. 

We are a laughing stock.

[JJJ 1,286]

1 hour ago, Stretch Johnson said:

That's a cop out. How about he doesn't go to court to get my protected details and he doesn't contact me in the first place.

I am going to be seeking advice of my own today. 

Just unbelievable that my details have been handed to this random.

This is a slight overreaction. There’s no personalisation. Just an email address. This is akin to receiving a flyer in your letterbox back in the day.

I could find out more about you in an hour if I wanted. Just using your Demonland user name as a reference point. Add to that, the enormous amount of information that’s in your Google profile. (You don’t need a Google account to have a profile. They can accurately profile individuals without it)

[demon3165 2,718]

10 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Let see what they do next? Because they have had alot of things levelled against them for the mishappenings at our club.

@DeeSpencer

And what are these things you say facts only please...

[demon3165 2,718]

8 hours ago, Dante said:

No need to call me Jesus, just Dante will do 

Now where did I mention talking to someone with out legal representation?

You’re just looking for an argument, you do whenever this subject is discussed and you get more strident the longer it continues. Why don’t you just finish your drink and go to bed. 

You are seriously all over the place I answer your questions and you complain you now saying I'm looking for an argument, I'm looking for facts it's that simple, as for your last comment suggest you grow up.

[demon3165 2,718]

8 hours ago, Dante said:

Read what you said, it makes no sense, then again it probably does to you. 

What part don't you understand, come on write them down.

Edited August 28 by demon3165

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,703]

14 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

And what are these things you say facts only please...

Let's see what they do next.

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, JJJ said:

Just using your Demonland user name as a reference point. 

Go for it.

Let me know what you find out.

[BDA 22,755]

7 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

You are seriously all over the place I answer your questions and you complain you now saying I'm looking for an argument, I'm looking for facts it's that simple, as for your last comment suggest you grow up.

what is the club doing right at the moment? just facts please 

[Guest]

40 minutes ago, JJJ said:

This is a slight overreaction. There’s no personalisation. Just an email address. This is akin to receiving a flyer in your letterbox back in the day.

I could find out more about you in an hour if I wanted. Just using your Demonland user name as a reference point. Add to that, the enormous amount of information that’s in your Google profile. (You don’t need a Google account to have a profile. They can accurately profile individuals without it)

And you would need to get my name and address from somewhere to deliver said flyer.

This guy is behaving disgracefully and egotistically.

[demon3165 2,718]

So you cannot answer the questions either, just because the media pile on you believe it, I'm not saying they are right or wrong but to say there are problems with the board without facts it's wrong people's credibility get called into line.

[Skuit 10,031]

15 hours ago, hardtack said:

I suspect that Peter Lawrence is a member of Demonland and possibly(?) engaging in this thread. Could @Demonland please reveal the name under which Mr Lawrence does post on these forums… surely he couldn’t object, all things considered!

More than that. I get a sense of a paid Tripadvisor-style 'review farm' going on here, which wouldn't be unfamiliar to Peter during his time in Southeast Asia. Totally based on instinct as a writer, but there are some striking similarities in the phrasing being used by various posters, and a 'voice' which doesn't match their previous posts.