Oliver Trade Rumours

[seventyfour 1,036]

5 minutes ago, Tracca said:

My take is the external review has said get rid of bad apples. And we have told clarry to start looking around

Hopefully they are telling Pert and Goodwin to start looking around too

[John Demonic 5,592]

[Fat Tony 5,179]

 

[titan_uranus 24,848]

1 minute ago, Fat Tony said:

 

Kane’s right. 

We’re absolutely pathetic. 

[BScotti 170]

heard he was up to some antics at Brownlow night, as well as failed to meet some agreements re medical.  I have faith that club has engaged this review and the review has recommended these actions.  So i work on the fact we asked for review, got a review and now take recommendations from review.  Im sure Clarry, Pluckett and the chase for Jimmy Bartel + others is directly from the review.

Unnervy feeling but got to trust the process.

 

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4 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Kane’s right. 

We’re absolutely pathetic. 

Pert must go. Must go.

[Tracca 803]

2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Kane’s right. 

We’re absolutely pathetic. 

How are we pathetic?

 

apart from not feeding into the media [censored], nothing has changed from the last day of the season until now.

What if we were never trading Clayton? This is all a media beat up, until the club speaks tonight and if claz is there we should all take a deep breath.

 

agreed our PR team are useless but let’s hold our horses here and not shoot the club for not responding to rumours just yet

[John Demonic 5,592]

14 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Well that was yesterday. Today's a whole new day for a different crisis!

Thank [censored] sanity has reportedly prevailed and Geelong's paltry offers were laughed off the phone.

Edited Thursday at 22:04 by John Demonic

[Whispering_Jack 29,323]

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2 minutes ago, biggestred said:

Pert must go. Must go.

Kane is nothing more than an ill informed, over opinionated, footy shock jock.  he would have no idea what the inner workings and discussions are

[KozzyCan 541]

2 minutes ago, Tracca said:

How are we pathetic?

 

apart from not feeding into the media [censored], nothing has changed from the last day of the season until now.

What if we were never trading Clayton? This is all a media beat up, until the club speaks tonight and if claz is there we should all take a deep breath.

 

agreed our PR team are useless but let’s hold our horses here and not shoot the club for not responding to rumours just yet

Oh come on! Why do you think Oliver liked the post saying he was going to Geelong? This was obviously very real, stop blaming the media for the mess the club has made yet again.

[titan_uranus 24,848]

1 minute ago, Tracca said:

How are we pathetic?

 

apart from not feeding into the media [censored], nothing has changed from the last day of the season until now.

What if we were never trading Clayton? This is all a media beat up, until the club speaks tonight and if claz is there we should all take a deep breath.

 

agreed our PR team are useless but let’s hold our horses here and not shoot the club for not responding to rumours just yet

We started this. We called around and asked if clubs would deal. 

He gets all the way down the path and wants out. 

We complain there isn’t enough value in a proposed trade. 

All of which was completely foreseeable. 

As if we didn’t think clubs would refrain from throwing massive draft pick hauls given his recent history? As if we didn’t think throwing his name out there for the second year in a row would create a major media storm and [censored] Clarry off?

All the parts of this that have been within our control have been mismanaged by us. 

[Jaded No More 68,591]

What a disgusting mismanagement of a HUMAN BEING!

As I said yesterday, you cannot use Clarry as a pawn in some sick game to make yourself appear to be fixing our culture. 
You are dealing with someone who loves and is committed to this club, or at least was, who is struggling with his mental health. You play with him, saying we want you, while also shopping him around, deluded to think he won’t find out. 
His management team, the same team who manages one C Petracca, must be shaking their head in disgusting.

And all the while, you wonder why nobody wants to come to this club, or why our culture stinks. This is why it stinks. You can trade away 1, 10, 44 players, but if the clowns running this circus remain, then guess what? The culture will continue to stink! 

Edited Thursday at 22:08 by Jaded No More

[Tracca 803]

3 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Oh come on! Why do you think Oliver liked the post saying he was going to Geelong? This was obviously very real, stop blaming the media for the mess the club has made yet again.

Clayton literally shared his interview from the deebrief as well. The part about trac and coming back to pre season with the dees. So does that mean he is staying now does it?

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2 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Either pull the trigger or don’t put your finger on the trigger in the first place.

Not pulling the trigger now guarantees a [censored] show.  Our cultural reset will be set back many, many years.

[Tracca 803]

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

What a disgusting mismanagement of a HUMAN BEING!

As I said yesterday, you cannot use Clarry as a pawn in some sick game to make yourself appear to be fixing our culture. 
You are dealing with someone who loves and is committed to this club, or at least was, who is struggling with his mental health. You play with him, saying we want you, while also shopping him around, deluded to think he won’t find out. 
His management team, the same team who manages one C Petracca, must be shaking their head in disgusting.

And all the while, you wonder why nobody wants to come to this club, or why are culture stinks. This is why it stinks. You can trade away 1, 10, 44 players, but if the clowns running this circus remain, then guess what? The culture will continue to stink! 

Whilst I agree with you re all of this, remember all of this is from the media, none of it is fact…….yet

[Tracca 803]

4 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

We started this. We called around and asked if clubs would deal. 

He gets all the way down the path and wants out. 

We complain there isn’t enough value in a proposed trade. 

All of which was completely foreseeable. 

As if we didn’t think clubs would refrain from throwing massive draft pick hauls given his recent history? As if we didn’t think throwing his name out there for the second year in a row would create a major media storm and [censored] Clarry off?

All the parts of this that have been within our control have been mismanaged by us. 

Hang on a sec…..

where did you hear we did the call around? That is all driven from the media. There is zero chance Gary pert called anyone about list management decisions.

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Just now, Tracca said:

Clayton literally shared his interview from the deebrief as well. The part about trac and coming back to pre season with the dees. So does that mean he is staying now does it?

My reading of that, which had the caption 'Sounds like a man who wants to repay the faith' was that Oliver was saying it wasn't him but the club. Oliver obviously felt betrayed when he found out the club was shopping him and Geelong love bombed him. We got cold feet when we saw how [censored] the deal was. We've made a complete mess of things, this story wasn't made up.

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35 minutes ago, Tracca said:

My take is the external review has said get rid of bad apples. And we have told clarry to start looking around

Yep, and he has been an overpaid rotten apple, that’s probably the only fact.

[Jaded No More 68,591]

4 minutes ago, Tracca said:

Hang on a sec…..

where did you hear we did the call around? That is all driven from the media. There is zero chance Gary pert called anyone about list management decisions.

Come on now, it’s the “Trac never wanted out, it’s just a media stunt” all over again. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

If this is true then we truly have the dumbest of the dumb people in charge of the direction of the club.

Whether it is you making contact or them making contact, why would you even start a dialogue with a club that you know is never going to give you fair value? All that can possibly do is drag multiple people/groups through the mud. You shut it down straight away with the common sense/knowledge that it would never be feasible anyway. If you're that keen to move someone on, engage with clubs you can feasibly see have the kind of assets you'd want.

Heads to roll as part of this. It's actually the right thing to do to try and start to rebuild some credibility. 

[Purple77 994]

I cannot tell you how relieved I am that Clayton is likely staying. 

This was legitimately my breaking point, and was ready to deactivate the account, cancel membership and everything. 

For shame MFC that this even happened.

[GCDee 3,196]

This situation is only a [censored] show because of the over the top media reports. 
I have full faith in the club to make the right call regarding Clarry, if he is traded there would be a very valid reason, especially if he is traded away for such little trade value. If we think we can make it work we will get our champion player back. 
This is the same football department that netted us 3 top four finishes in the last 4 years and flag. They know what they are doing and most of all they know the nature of the relationships and dynamics within the club. Yes we have had some misses at the trade table the last 3 years but we have continued to draft very well. Your not going to get every trade right and it’s not like we have thrown mega contracts at complete spuds (Grundy only didn’t work because we have the greatest ever ruckman on our list already) 

 

Have some faith, what will be will be and whatever decision is made I’m sure it’s the right one. 

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Just now, GCDee said:

This situation is only a [censored] show because of the over the top media reports. 
I have full faith in the club to make the right call regarding Clarry, if he is traded there would be a very valid reason, especially if he is traded away for such little trade value. If we think we can make it work we will get our champion player back. 
This is the same football department that netted us 3 top four finishes in the last 4 years and flag. They know what they are doing and most of all they know the nature of the relationships and dynamics within the club. Yes we have had some misses at the trade table the last 3 years but we have continued to draft very well. Your not going to get every trade right and it’s not like we have thrown mega contracts at complete spuds (Grundy only didn’t work because we have the greatest ever ruckman on our list already) 

 

Have some faith, what will be will be and whatever decision is made I’m sure it’s the right one. 

While I tend to agree, this continually highlights how poor we are at media management. We are the medias favorite punching bag and whether the club are right or wrong on their treatment of Clarry, they can’t win in the eyes of the media. 
 

Media management shouldn’t be this hard. You have a strong lead who develops strong relationships with those who are relevant, offer up some exclusives to keep them happy and friendly & make them feel like the most important people in the industry. Then when stuff like this happens, they’ll call you first as they prioritize the relations, or you call them and ask them to shut it down. 
 

We’ve seemingly gone down the path of shutting up shop and allowing them to fill the space, which they’ll do 100 times over. Whatever we’re doing, it’s not working…

[Tracca 803]

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Come on now, it’s the “Trac never wanted out, it’s just a media stunt” all over again. 

 

Again you are jumping to conclusions. Let’s wait and see what happens tonight then happy to stand next to you with pitchforks