Jump to content

Discussion on recent allegations about the use of illicit drugs in football is forbidden
  • IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

    Posting unsubstantiated rumours on this website is strictly forbidden.

    Demonland has made the difficult decision to not permit this platform to be used to discuss & debate the off-field issues relating to the Melbourne Football Club including matters currently being litigated between the Club & former Board members, board elections, the issue of illicit drugs in footy, the culture at the club & the personal issues & allegations against some of our players & officials ...

    We do not take these issues & this decision lightly & of course we believe that these serious matters affecting the club we love & are so passionate about are worthy of discussion & debate & I wish we could provide a place where these matters can be discussed in a civil & respectful manner.

    However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

    The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

    Our moderating team are all volunteers & cannot moderate the forum 24/7 & as a consequence problematic content that contravenes our rules & standards may go unnoticed for some time before it can be removed.

    We reserve the right to delete posts that offend against our above policy & indeed, to ban posters who are repeat offenders or who breach our code of conduct.

    WE HAVE BUILT A FANTASTIC ONLINE COMMUNITY AT DEMONLAND OVER THE PAST 23 YEARS & WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE CLUB WE LOVE & ARE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT.

    Thank you for your continued support & understanding. Go Dees.


POSTGAME: Rd 12 vs Carlton


Demonland

Recommended Posts

11 hours ago, binman said:

Because I have had this debate for years and years, I have heard all the arguments about why the current model of well-paid amateurs works. None stack up for mine.

The most common argument aginst professional umpires is that it is prohibitively expensive. 

Please – it is a multibillion dollar industry and we have accountants and physiotherapists making decisions that can change the fortune of a club.

You'd need to pay them a lot though, at least the same as the highest paid players, because they will be sacrificing their best years of career development umpiring - and what then?  Those accountants and physiotherapists can go on doing that work beyond their involvement in football because they've been building their career.  Players have club sponsored job opportunities beyond football.

Edited by old55
  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ugly win, but we were by far the better side.   I have been increasingly worried that some of our wins earlier in the season came more from moments of individual brilliance rather than our system, so I was particular pleased to see a system based win.  We now have to work on our polish otherwise we won't get past Collingwood on Monday.

Good chance it's been posted already, but expected scores had us winning very easily.

image.png.dc3d90b8014e9e0999ba3701cfe7eea1.png

Fxn9W0tXoAIwanO.png

  • Like 5
  • Love 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 6/4/2023 at 10:40 AM, BDA said:

You think AFL has a lot of interpretation you should take a look at Rugby Union! Gaelic football referees get lambasted all the time because nobody knows what a legal Gaelic football tackle is.

The thing that sets AFL umpiring apart is the number and frequency of dreadful decisions. Interpretation is one thing but how in heaven did the ump think Dockerty deserved a free on Friday night. Everyone around me were scratching their heads. And there are lots of those decisions every weekend.

Set aside time, money and resources to help improve the standard. It's a no brainer so why isn't it being done?

When the players of BOTH teams stop and run instinctively in one direction you know there is a problem'

Link to comment
Share on other sites

41 minutes ago, old55 said:

You'd need to pay them a lot though, at least the same as the highest paid players, because they will be sacrificing their best years of career development umpiring - and what then?  Those accountants and physiotherapists can go on doing that work beyond their involvement in football because they've been building their career.  Players have club sponsored job opportunities beyond football.

Just treat them the same as say, the second rank of highest paid players. And club sponsored job opportunities for players can be AFL sponsored ones for umpires.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 minutes ago, sue said:

Just treat them the same as say, the second rank of highest paid players. And club sponsored job opportunities for players can be AFL sponsored ones for umpires.

The post playing career "club sponsored" job prospects for players are provided by influential club supporters, there is no "AFL" equivalent for umpires.

There's also post career playing and coaching at lower levels with associated jobs for players that umpires don't have.

Edited by old55
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, sue said:

Just treat them the same as say, the second rank of highest paid players. And club sponsored job opportunities for players can be AFL sponsored ones for umpires.

As with any group..   you have the noobs... the experienced ones,  the more senior ones....etc

Pay scales accordingly... like any organisation. 

But organise, train and pay them properly. 

Make the game better ... i.e less ambiguous and subjective rules..  Make it easier to umpire and to facilitate their abilities and accountability.

Its a dogs breakfast currently....fair to no one.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites


2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

As with any group..   you have the noobs... the experienced ones,  the more senior ones....etc

Pay scales accordingly... like any organisation. 

But organise, train and pay them properly. 

Make the game better ... i.e less ambiguous and subjective rules..  Make it easier to umpire and to facilitate their abilities and accountability.

Its a dogs breakfast currently....fair to no one.

 

It's not "like any organisation" because umpires have a limited career span and there's only one employer world wide

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

25 minutes ago, old55 said:

The post playing career "club sponsored" job prospects for players are provided by influential club supporters, there is no "AFL" equivalent for umpires.

There's also post career playing and coaching at lower levels with associated jobs for players that umpires don't have.

True, the is no equivalent for umpires.  Therefore the AFL should run such a program out of its enormous budget. 

In any case, many players play for relatively modest sums compared to the stars and are not treated to a golden future by their club's influential supporters.  They play for other reasons and do whatever career afterwards they have either planned or fall into.  The same could apply to umpires.  

It may not produce 100% of what is needed, but it would go a long way towards fixing things.

  • Thinking 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 minutes ago, old55 said:

It's not "like any organisation" because umpires have a limited career span and there's only one employer world wide

The umpires themsleves have said plenty of times that they don't want to go professional and they don't see how full time hours could be filled and can't see how it would actually improve things.

The best thing to imrpove the quality of umpiring is make rule changes to reduce the ambiguity of decisions.  The pushing in the back in marking contests is currently a mess and is incredibly hard to umpire.  It wasn't that way when the hand in the back rule was in existience.  

When the rules commitee come to look at possible rule changes, one of the main things they should consider is whether it would make the game easier or harder to umpire.

And also, start properly punishing players who stage for frees!!!

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

12 minutes ago, sue said:

In any case, many players play for relatively modest sums compared to the stars and are not treated to a golden future by their club's influential supporters.  They play for other reasons and do whatever career afterwards they have either planned or fall into.  The same could apply to umpires.  

A significant number of children grow up with a desire to play AFL so those playing for modest sums have fulfilled a life long ambition, so they calculate that certain sacrifices are worth it. These are your "other reasons". I don't think many children grow up with a lifelong ambition to be an AFL umpire. I'm not saying umpiring can't be rewarding but "other reasons" don't apply in anything like the same way.

Edited by old55
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, sue said:

True, the is no equivalent for umpires.  Therefore the AFL should run such a program out of its enormous budget. 

In any case, many players play for relatively modest sums compared to the stars and are not treated to a golden future by their club's influential supporters.  They play for other reasons and do whatever career afterwards they have either planned or fall into.  The same could apply to umpires.  

It may not produce 100% of what is needed, but it would go a long way towards fixing things.

The big issue is ages. Most players start in their teens or early 20’s and by 25 have either made a career or a great financial start and can then continue on strong wages or turn their attention to other careers.

Umpiring is always going to demand more maturity by the nature of the job.

30-40 will be the prime years for umps which is also the prime career advancement years for most people.

I think it would be smart to identify a number of 25 year olds with elite potential and create a pathway for a number of full time umpires. 1 per game would be a wise aim. But making the entire system full time certainly isn’t a short term option if at all.

Umpires are already very well paid for part time work and a lot of careers are now flexible with jobs. They can’t give up their jobs but I’d imagine many are doing 3 or 4 day weeks.

The thing that’s been overlooked with umps this year is that the shift from 3 to 4 has lowered the standard across the comp.

It’s also messed with positioning and with overruling.

These are short term negatives that we are suffering through for the greater good. 

The overwhelming positive is that for the first time in decades the running work load on umps has been significantly eased. We will see that benefit with less injuries, longer careers, less rigorous fitness demands over the next few years.

And the teething problems with getting more umps per round, different angles, poor or reluctant overruling from off ball umps will start to resolve.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree with ViperP that some serious work on the rules would make the umpire's job easier and it should be first cab off the rank whether umps become pros or not.

 OLD55 is right of course, the desire to be an umpire is far less common than that to be a player.   But some have a passion to be involved in football and if they find they'll never be good enough as a player, umpiring might fill that desire.  We don't need as many people motivated to be umpires as we need players.  We have towards 800 AFL players and need only 27 field umpires a round (in very rough numbers of course).  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Another way to improving umpiring standards would be to rip off the band-aid and finally get rid of the centre bounce.  It really won’t be missed, I promise.  It will no longer be a reason some umpires can’t umpire at the highest level.  It will no longer cause anxiety for umpires who mess a few up.  It will allow them to keep their heads up to see what’s going on.  Reduce the radius of the centre circle by a metre or two and just throw the thing up.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

35 minutes ago, Vipercrunch said:

Another way to improving umpiring standards would be to rip off the band-aid and finally get rid of the centre bounce.  It really won’t be missed, I promise.  It will no longer be a reason some umpires can’t umpire at the highest level.  It will no longer cause anxiety for umpires who mess a few up.  It will allow them to keep their heads up to see what’s going on.  Reduce the radius of the centre circle by a metre or two and just throw the thing up.

Agree.  While the traditional look of a perfect bounce is great, far too often the bounce clearly favours one side and the umpires do not recall it when they should.   

The AFL has already made it clear the bounce will die.  Why else would they throw it up after a 666 infringement? There seems no justification for not just doing the bounce as usual after issuing the warning.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here's my question: Umpires have always been part time but why could they bounce it a lot better in the past than now?

When it comes to set shots and goal kicking you can possibly use the excuse of players being full time and prioritising other training, what is an umpire's excuse for this one element of the job that doesn't need interpretation but just a lot of practice? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, old55 said:

You'd need to pay them a lot though, at least the same as the highest paid players, because they will be sacrificing their best years of career development umpiring - and what then?  Those accountants and physiotherapists can go on doing that work beyond their involvement in football because they've been building their career.  Players have club sponsored job opportunities beyond football.

Well, you wouldn't necessarily get accountants and physiotherapists - except for the nonprofessional roles (realistically three full time professional per game may not be financially viable, so you'd still need the highly skilled amateurs - who by the way i think get paid pretty well for every game they officiate).

But accountants and physiotherapists aren't the only people with the skills set to be excellent umpires.

My son was pretty handy junior basketballer. But was never going to make it at the elite level. So, he went down the refereeing path and jumped up through the grades pretty quickly.

He had a mentor from Basketball Australia, who invest significant resources into this area, who had been a FIBA ref at the Olympics and world championships and really encouraged him to think about the opportunities refereeing provided (international travel, NBL and the big one - professional NBL ref). 

My son ultimately decided to stop reffing, which was unfortunate as he became an excellent ref, in large part because of the training and pathways BA provided.

Anyone who has been at high stakes basketball game at any decent level knows how crazy and intense the pressure is. The best refs thrive in this environment - but only with the right support and training.

My son is never going to be an accountant or physiotherapist, but if he stayed the course, he would have become an excellent ref. If there was a path to become full time professional AFL umpire he may well have pursued that option.

As would many young people - if you love sport and want to be involved at the highest level why not make umpiring a career? 

Edited by binman
  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites


15 hours ago, binman said:

Please – it is a multibillion dollar industry and we have accountants and physiotherapists making decisions that can change the fortune of a club.

 

17 minutes ago, binman said:

Well, you wouldn't necessarily get accountants and physiotherapists - except for the nonprofessional roles (realistically three full time professional per game may not be financially viable, so you'd still need the highly skilled amateurs - who by the way i think get paid pretty well for every game they officiate).

But accountants and physiotherapists aren't the only people with the skills set to be excellent umpires.

I think you've entirely missed my point in response to your original reference to "accountants and physiotherapists".

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, sue said:

I agree with ViperP that some serious work on the rules would make the umpire's job easier and it should be first cab off the rank whether umps become pros or not.

 OLD55 is right of course, the desire to be an umpire is far less common than that to be a player.   But some have a passion to be involved in football and if they find they'll never be good enough as a player, umpiring might fill that desire.  We don't need as many people motivated to be umpires as we need players.  We have towards 800 AFL players and need only 27 field umpires a round (in very rough numbers of course).  

In case you missed it sue, there are 4 field umpires per game now plus an emergency.  That's 45 field umpires per round, not counting the ones who are injured or out of form and working at lower levels.  The required number is quite a bit higher than a team's playing list.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 hours ago, monoccular said:

Not only kids either. Some seniors in particular also find this time way too late.  
Even  watching “neutral games” on TV unless it is close or high standard, I may just turn off at half time.  Surely even the TV execs who seem to run AFL scheduling  will be aware of this?
And this is all the worse with the regular “train replaced by busses” we seem to get all the time. 

Unlikely. It's their job to be coked to the eyeballs. The concept of being fatigued by 10pm simply wouldn't register.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

25 minutes ago, binman said:

Well, you wouldn't necessarily get accountants and physiotherapists - except for the nonprofessional roles (realistically three full time professional per game may not be financially viable, so you'd still need the highly skilled amateurs - who by the way i think get paid pretty well for every game they officiate).

But accountants and physiotherapists aren't the only people with the skills set to be excellent umpires.

My son was pretty handy junior basketballer. But was never going to make it at the elite level. So, he went down the refereeing path and jumped up through the grades pretty quickly.

He had a mentor from Basketball Australia, who invest significant resources into this area, who had been a FIBA ref at the Olympics and world championships and really encouraged him to think about the opportunities refereeing provided (international travel, NBL and the big one - professional NBL ref). 

My son ultimately decided to stop reffing, which was unfortunate as he became an excellent ref, in large part because of the training and pathways BA provided.

Anyone who has been at high stakes basketball game at any decent level knows how crazy and intense the pressure is. The best refs thrive in this environment - but only with the right support and training.

My son is never going to be an accountant or physiotherapist, but if he stayed the course, he would have become an excellent ref. If there was a path to become full time professional AFL umpire he may well have pursued that option.

As would many young people - if you love sport and want to be involved at the highest level why not make umpiring a career? 

I see this as a reason to invest more heavily into the support structures around umpires and the pathways, not in making the umpires themselves full-time.  Perhaps having more full time umpire coaches/mentors and analysts is the way to go.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Absolutely. 

Scenario for moi

Game ends.   15/20 mins to get on Richmond  Station.  Maybe 5-15  mins for train 

45mins on train

5mins walk to car

45/50 min drive home.

It's a very late night.

You know you’re old when 7.50 on a Friday night is too late.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

25 minutes ago, old55 said:

In case you missed it sue, there are 4 field umpires per game now plus an emergency.  That's 45 field umpires per round, not counting the ones who are injured or out of form and working at lower levels.  The required number is quite a bit higher than a team's playing list.

No old55 I hadn't missed it.  I was just assuming this 4 umpire madness would disappear by next season.  And yes, I am aware that there will be umpires injured etc. - hence my stating "in very rough numbers of course"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    ICEBREAKER by KC from Casey

    The Casey Demons have broken the ice for season 2024 with a pulsating come-from-behind victory over Port Melbourne in which it took the lead for the first time at the halfway mark of the final quarter. The game played in mild Autumn conditions in neutral territory at Kinetic Park, Frankston, never reached great heights in standard but it proved gripping in character at the end at the Casey Demons overcame the Borough to win by 15 points after trailing badly early in the second half.  P

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Casey Articles

    MAULED by Whispering Jack

    The writing was on the wall from the very first bounce of the football. The big men went up, Max Gawn more often than not, decisively won the ruck hit out and invariably a Brisbane Lions onballer either won the battle on the ground or halved the contest and they went at it repeatedly until they finally won out. Melbourne managed the first goal from Alex Neal-Bullen but after that the visitors shut out every area of Demon presence around the ground except in the ruck duels. It was a mauling.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports 4

    PREGAME: Rd 07 vs Richmond

    The Demons have a bye next week and have a 13 day break before they return to the MCG on ANZAC Eve to take on the Tigers. Who comes in and who goes out?

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 154

    PODCAST: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 15th April @ 8:30pm. Join George, Binman & I as we analyse the Demons loss at the MCG against the Lions in the Round 05. You questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human. Listen & Chat LIV

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 47

    VOTES: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    Last week Christian Petracca retook the outright lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Max Gawn, Steven May, Alex Neal-Bullen & Jack Viney. Your votes for the loss against the Lions. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 39

    POSTGAME: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The Demons 4 game winning streak has come to an end after a disappointing loss against the Brisbane Lions at the MCG going down by 22 points. 

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 503

    GAMEDAY: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    It's Game Day & Demons have a great opportunity to win their fifth game on the trot and go into the bye with 5 wins and one loss when they take on the Brisbane Lions at the MCG on the Thursday night big stage.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 833

    TRAINING: Wednesday 10th April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Demon Dynasty were once again on hand at this morning's Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from training. KEV MARTIN'S CAPTAIN'S RUN OBSERVATIONS No-one in rehab this morning, a Captain's run, 26 players. Laurie, Tomlinson, Tholstrup, Chandler, Woey, and Kossie are out there. Rehabbers are out now. Marty, McAdam, Melky, Bowey, Sestan. As a guess for in and outs, I would say, out Laurie, Tomlinson, and W

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    THE PEOPLE SPEAK by The Demonland Crew

    DEMONLAND: Good evening, Demon fans and welcome to the Demonland 2024 Grand Final Podcast … It’s been a beautiful last day of September and how sweet it is to bring you our coverage of all things that matter about the great Demon resurgence which we’ve seen over the past six or seven months. How our team overcame a turbulent off season and a disappointing start to 2024 on a humid night in Sydney, turned our detractors into believers and then ended the year triumphant in the finals with our capta

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews 3
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast 

  • Podcast Stream 


    Open Stream in
    New Window
        TuneIn    Opens in New Tab
  • Support Demonland  



  • 2021 Premiership  

  • Social Media 

  • Non MFC Games  

    NON-MFC: Round 06

    Discussion of all the other games that don't involve the Demons in Round 06 ... READ MORE

    Demonland | Round 06

  • Latest Podcast      

    PODCAST: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The boys dissected the disappointing loss to Brisbane rueing our poor work at the stoppages, debated the role that fatigue played and lamenting the loss of Christian Salem ... LISTEN

    Demonland | April 16

  • PreGame      

    PREGAME: Rd 06 vs Richmond

    The Demons have a bye next week and have a 13 day break before they return to the MCG on ANZAC Eve to take on the Tigers. Who comes in and who goes out? ...READ MORE

    Demonland | April 16

  • Casey Report      

    ICE BREAKER by KC from Casey

    The Casey Demons have broken the ice for season 2024 with a pulsating come-from-behind victory over Port Melbourne in which it took the lead for the first time at the halfway mark of the final quarter ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 14

  • Match Report      

    MAULED by Whispering Jack

    The writing was on the wall from the very first bounce of the football. The big men went up, Max Gawn more often than not, decisively won the ruck hit out and invariably a Brisbane Lions onballer either won the battle on the ground or halved the contest and they went at it repeatedly until they finally won out ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 12

  • Post Game      

    POSTGAME: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    The Demons 4 game winning streak has come to an end after a disappointing loss against the Brisbane Lions at the MCG going down by 22 points ...READ MORE

    Demonland | April 11

  • Votes      

    VOTES: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    Last week Christian Petracca retook the outright lead in the Demonland Player of the Year Award from Max Gawn, Steven May, Alex Neal-Bullen & Jack Viney. Your votes for the loss against the Lions. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...READ MORE

    Demonland | April 11

  • Game Day      

    GAMEDAY: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

    It's Game Day & the Demons have a great opportunity to win their fifth game on the trot and go into the bye with 5 wins and one loss when they take on the Brisbane Lions at the MCG on the Thursday night big stage ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 11

  • Training  

    Wednesday, 10th April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin and Demon Dynasty were once again on hand at this morning's Captain's Run at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 10

  • Match Preview      

    THE PEOPLE SPEAK by The Demonland Crew

    Good evening, Demon fans and welcome to the Demonland 2024 Grand Final Podcast … It’s been a beautiful last day of September and how sweet it is to bring you our coverage of all things that matter about the great Demon resurgence which we’ve seen over the past six or seven months ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 09

  • Training  

    Sunday, 7th April 2024

    Demonland Trackwatcher Kev Martin ventured down in the rain to Gosch's Paddock for the Demon Family Series April School Holiday Open Training session ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 07

  • Training  

    Monday, 1st April 2024

    Our man on the spot Bendigo Demon traveled to Adelaide for our back to back games in the City of Churches and brings you his observations from the Demon's training session at Hisense Stadium ... READ MORE

    Demonland | April 01

  • Training  

    Monday, 25th March 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers Demon Dynasty & Kev Martin were trackside at Gosch's Paddock today to bring you their observations from training ... READ MORE

    Demonland | March 25

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Koltyn Tholstrup Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club’s newest recruit Koltyn Tholstrup to have a chat about his journey from the farm to the Demons, his first few weeks of preseason training, which Dees have impressed him on the track and his aspirations of playing Round 1 ... LISTEN

    Demonland | December 14

  • Latest Podcast  

    PODCAST: Jason Taylor Interview

    I interview the Melbourne Football Club's National Recruitment Manager Jason Taylor to have a chat about our Trade and Draft period, our newest recruits, our recent recruits who have yet to debut as well as those father son prospects on the horizon ... LISTEN

    Demonland | November 27

  • Next Match 

    .

    Round 07

       vs   

    Wednesday 24th April 2024
    @ 07:25pm (MCG)

  • MFC Forum  

  • Match Previews & Reports  

  • Training Forum  

  • AFLW Forum  

  • 2024 Player Sponsorship

  • Topics

  • Injury List  


      PLAYER INJURY LENGTH
    Shane McAdam Hamstring 1-2 Weeks
    Marty Hore Thumb 1-2 Weeks
    Charlie Spargo Achilles 3 Weeks
    Christian Salem Hamstrong 3-4 Weeks
    Jake Bowey Shoulder 4-5 Weeks
    Jake Melksham ACL 9-11 Weeks
    Joel Smith Suspension TBA

  • Player of the Year  


        PLAYER VOTES
    1 Christian Petracca 55
    2 Max Gawn 49
    3 Steven May 34
    4 Alex Neal-Bullen 27
    5 Jack Viney 24
    6 Clayton Oliver 22
    7 Bayley Fritsch 19
    8 Judd McVee 15
    9 Christian Salem 12
    10 Blake Howes 11

        FULL TABLE
  • Demonland Interviews 



  • Upcoming Events 

×
×
  • Create New...