layzie 34,528 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, JAG007 said: Of course Collingwood supporters will outnumber us on Monday, but its quality not quantity that counts. I'd rather have 50 litres of U98 premium petrol than 200 litres of standard U91. 1 Quote
Wodjathefirst 2,671 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 I think that the largest home and away crowd ever was about 98,000 or thereabouts between Melbourne and Collingwood way back in 1958!. And I think it is still the record (happy to be corrected). What makes that so fascinating to me is that the Melbourne city population I’m guessing back then would have been 2 million or maybe even less. I understand that now people have so many different and competing options to what was available back then. But nonetheless, there must have been some incredible hype leading up to that game. I know it is grasping at straws a little but I find it exciting that this coming Monday may be our biggest turnout for a home game since then. For those of us that will be fortunate to attend, do our boys a huge favour, make a lot of noise. GO THE DEES!! 6 Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, layzie said: I'd rather have 50 litres of U98 premium petrol than 200 litres of standard U91. And I'd rather drink Grange over Ben Ean Moselle but you can't have everything Quote
Guest Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, layzie said: I'm so sick of hearing from people who are obsessed about crowds. I couldn't give a stuff anymore, if people want to come they can and if not they can please themselves. … but these people who don’t/can’t attend are the last people who should be finger-wagging and tsk-tsk-ing and warningly telling us we’d better show up. Quote
Docs Demons 1,810 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, layzie said: I'd rather have 50 litres of U98 premium petrol than 200 litres of standard U91. AND they have more than likely knocked off the U91 !! 1 1 1 Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said: I think that the largest home and away crowd ever was about 98,000 or thereabouts between Melbourne and Collingwood way back in 1958!. And I think it is still the record (happy to be corrected). What makes that so fascinating to me is that the Melbourne city population I’m guessing back then would have been 2 million or maybe even less. I understand that now people have so many different and competing options to what was available back then. But nonetheless, there must have been some incredible hype leading up to that game. I know it is grasping at straws a little but I find it exciting that this coming Monday may be our biggest turnout for a home game since then. For those of us that will be fortunate to attend, do our boys a huge favour, make a lot of noise. GO THE DEES!! We are a quiet crowd and that ain't changing in a hurry We're reserved, conservative and dare I say it, civilised! It's a point of difference that doesn't bother me one tiny bit. It's who and what we are Urging otherwise is a waste of time and effort as I've been hearing the same thing since the 1960's 5 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,744 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 FMD, Steve, fancy complaining others aren't turning up when you're swanning around in Europe. 1 5 Quote
58er 6,872 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, Macca said: And with Sidebottom & De Goey out, it's advantage Demons Defence based with a return to our 2021 method. Do that and we'll have a more potent offence Agree absolutely double edged sword. Quote
Ben 222 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Macca said: We're reserved, conservative and dare I say it, civilised! It's a point of difference that doesn't bother me one tiny bit. It's who and what we are By remaining civilised we deny the 23 wearing the red and blue an extra hand. Crowd noise must help a team with motivation and momentum (particularly in the final quarter) and possibly help with umpiring calls. I've been to many Collingwood games in the past 12 months and I'm very jealous of the influence they can have and the atmosphere they create. If we can be just 10 or 20% less civilised we would be helping the team out. I don't think that being reserved is at all a good supporter trait. 3 1 Quote
Dee Zephyr 19,313 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 Oh boy, imagine the lines next Monday for a $10.50 beer. 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,744 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ben said: By remaining civilised we deny the 23 wearing the red and blue an extra hand. Crowd noise must help a team with motivation and momentum (particularly in the final quarter) and possibly help with umpiring calls. I've been to many Collingwood games in the past 12 months and I'm very jealous of the influence they can have and the atmosphere they create. If we can be just 10 or 20% less civilised we would be helping the team out. I don't think that being reserved is at all a good supporter trait. I agree. The quietness of Melbourne crowds do my head in. They're not always quiet, but often they're quiet at the wrong times. I remember going to a game against Port at the G in the early 2000s. There was something like 12k there. It sounded like 50k, so we can make noise (think Geelong and Hawthorn 2018 finals as well), but we don't do it consistently. And I have to say, sitting in the MCC, there are so many Melbourne people that just simply don't understand the rules or have a decent feel for the game. But all clubs have nuffies. 2 Quote
Guest Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 Personally I leave every single match with a sore throat and a headache that’d drop a horse. All good, that’s what I signed up for. But it’s so disheartening to have to keep hearing about how we don’t turn up, and about how those of us who do turn up aren’t making enough noise. It’s especially irritating when it’s coming from someone who for whatever reason can’t/won’t attend. Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ben said: By remaining civilised we deny the 23 wearing the red and blue an extra hand. Crowd noise must help a team with motivation and momentum (particularly in the final quarter) and possibly help with umpiring calls. I've been to many Collingwood games in the past 12 months and I'm very jealous of the influence they can have and the atmosphere they create. If we can be just 10 or 20% less civilised we would be helping the team out. I don't think that being reserved is at all a good supporter trait. It's not going to change in your lifetime so you may as well deal with it Since the 1960's I've been hearing the same thing so your evaluation is nothing new We won 5 flags in 6 years with a reserved and conservative support base ... in front of bumper crowds (100k etc) What wins games of football is pure talent and good coaching. All the rest of it is fluff and mostly bs Edited June 5, 2023 by Macca 3 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 We just need to do our bit and get the job done. Quote
Guest Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ben said: By remaining civilised we deny the 23 wearing the red and blue an extra hand. Crowd noise must help a team with motivation and momentum (particularly in the final quarter) and possibly help with umpiring calls. I've been to many Collingwood games in the past 12 months and I'm very jealous of the influence they can have and the atmosphere they create. If we can be just 10 or 20% less civilised we would be helping the team out. I don't think that being reserved is at all a good supporter trait. You can’t make strawberry jam out of pig sh!tt. We simply don’t have the numbers of a Collingwood or a Carlton. We likely never will. Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, 58er said: Agree absolutely double edged sword. Our defence line-up is looking mighty good and how good would it be if we could use Petty back? May & Lever have hit their straps and with Salem, Rivers, McVee, Bowey & Brayshaw (along with Petty or Tomlinson) we can push for another flag tilt Backline is full of class and a bit of dash The 2nd half against the Blues gave us a glimpse of the past (2021) and a vision of the future 2 Quote
JimmyGadson 3,455 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 Joize I've upset a few! Sounds like some have taken it as a personal attack because they're in that 50+ age bracket?! Hope everyone's okay, no offence meant. Having a great time in Europe btw everyone! Thanks! 2 6 1 Quote
Stiff Arm 4,420 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said: Oh boy, imagine the lines next Monday for a $10.50 beer. Do the clubs get anything out of the food and beverage sales or is it just the gate takings? Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ben said: By remaining civilised we deny the 23 wearing the red and blue an extra hand. Crowd noise must help a team with motivation and momentum (particularly in the final quarter) and possibly help with umpiring calls. I've been to many Collingwood games in the past 12 months and I'm very jealous of the influence they can have and the atmosphere they create. If we can be just 10 or 20% less civilised we would be helping the team out. I don't think that being reserved is at all a good supporter trait. I like to be loud but sometimes like on Fri night I yell a bit less and do more thinking about the game. Cheering though is always constant. Yelling all the time like a Dikwad doesn't always make you a better fan. 4 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said: Personally I leave every single match with a sore throat and a headache that’d drop a horse. All good, that’s what I signed up for. But it’s so disheartening to have to keep hearing about how we don’t turn up, and about how those of us who do turn up aren’t making enough noise. It’s especially irritating when it’s coming from someone who for whatever reason can’t/won’t attend. It's a disgrace and a joke. 1 Quote
Kev 10,926 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Ben said: I don't think that being reserved is at all a good supporter trait. So many supporters mainly from other clubs, give calls to the ump when it is obvious to most that there is nothing to see here. Carlton calling "ball", all night long on Friday, is an example. So glad that is not in the MFC supporters DNA. Would hate for us to be like that. Bad umpire decisions either way, effect a good game. Winning liking that, is for me disappointing. I even call the footy gods in when a howler of a bad decision leads to a kick on goal and we miss. Sometimes when I barrack I get the, I am annoying, type of feedback. When I was in WA, many wanted to fight and use personal abuse. So, sometimes it is time and place. Has happened at the MCG as well. A Hawthorn supporter at the last game we played was really "off". There are many nuisances to support and just making noise that is contrived is taking the reality and drama out of the sport. The stuff that occurs with some clubs when the home team scores is weird. I reckon each to their own though. Edited June 5, 2023 by kev martin 4 Quote
Deestar9 1,856 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 38 minutes ago, Macca said: We are a quiet crowd and that ain't changing in a hurry We're reserved, conservative and dare I say it, civilised! It's a point of difference that doesn't bother me one tiny bit. It's who and what we are Urging otherwise is a waste of time and effort as I've been hearing the same thing since the 1960's I do wish we made a lot more noise though. You can be loud without being the moronic type of pies supporter. It def influences umpires when the crowd is in full voice. At the Freo game their very few supporters were extremely loud. I know for the fact the club acknowledges that we’re “too quiet” as a club. You often see on the screen at home games …messages asking supporters to make a noise . 1 Quote
Macca 17,127 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 I've got a mate who is in the building trade (supplier) He deals with hundreds of people every month and those numbers are changeable The talk often revolves around footy with nearly everyone of his hundreds of contacts Zero Demon fans as contacts ... none! All Tigers, Pies, Blues & Bombers with a smattering of Dogs, Hawks & Saints fans In many ways we are like North Melbourne supporters ... scarce And that's what happens when you crud for decades. And we will continue to be that way unless we have sustained finals success for at least 10 years And that's on the club, not us. It's the club that needs to deliver (consistently) All we can do is fork out our money and support. And as far as I can see, our supporters have always fulfilled our part of the bargain It's the club that has often fallen short 2 1 Quote
Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,335 Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, Ben said: By remaining civilised we deny the 23 wearing the red and blue an extra hand. Crowd noise must help a team with motivation and momentum (particularly in the final quarter) and possibly help with umpiring calls. I've been to many Collingwood games in the past 12 months and I'm very jealous of the influence they can have and the atmosphere they create. If we can be just 10 or 20% less civilised we would be helping the team out. I don't think that being reserved is at all a good supporter trait. Agree we are mostly quiet compared to other fan bases but can get very loud occasionally. I doubt many saw this but there was a time in the 2nd QTR after about our 4th horrible F50 entry in a row that went straight to a Carlton defender and the crowd were restless and negative. As Carlton ran the ball out, Trac turned to the crowd and yelled " show some [censored] support" during play. I heard it from the 2nd level. At the next stoppage he was revving the crowd up lifting his arms repeatedly. Our support and lack thereof is so important to our team. Some of the regulars around me are so damn negative and at times disgraceful with abuse hurled at our players it's embarrassing. 1 1 1 Quote
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