PREGAME: Rd 05 vs Essendon

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On 4/10/2023 at 2:42 PM, AzzKikA said:

Be interesting to see how Brodie goes against Draper. Don't mind Draper, good second and third efforts and can hold a mark, will be an intriguing battle.

Agree, it's Grundy's first big test since the Brisbane game.

Sydney and West Coast didn't have a back up ruck but Essendon will have Draper and Phillips going at him for most of the day. I feel we'll lose some ascendancy when Grundy is resting.

But he's been outstanding the last fortnight.

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19 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Agree re your comments about Crows fans. Their as bad as you get. By comparison Port fans are lovely people. Crow fans seem to retain the arrogance of their glory years. 

Eagles supporters are the worst.

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3 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

Thanks heavens Gil's still making money for the AFL.  If not for AFL support and the money they'd made through these evil "money making idea's" we'd be gone years ago and COVID would have decimated the competition.  Many more club staff would have been without a jobs, players wouldn't have been paid and would have looked for other professions, the public wouldn't have had footy as Dan put us into home detention for months on end and as a result many more of us would have suffered mental illness.

Footy survived because the AFL looked for "money-making ideas" and were financially robust enough to maintain the game in the most challenging of circumstances.  We will receive (reportedly) $500,000 to $800,000 for the Gather round.  Maybe some of the phyio's and other player support staff that lost their job during COVID will find their way back into the industry and if it isn't them then others who provide support for our players will take their place.  

What on earth is wrong with making money?  Without it the game dies.  The Gather round provides an extra meaningful game of footy rather than a meaningless practice game. It will provide Adelaide with a fantastic economic boost to business still struggling after COVID, it will make the AFL stronger which makes the whole competition stronger.

Make money Gil, that's what I say.  Who knows when the next pandemic is going to hit or some other circumstance beyond the AFL's control descends upon us.  The prospect of a financially struggling AFL and its impacts are too depressing to think about.

 

Congrats for drinking all the AFL Kool Aid.

The AFL was in a strong financial position as any business that’s been running largely unchallenged for 150 years should be. Having enough cash to weather a sudden disruption should be the bare minimum for acceptable governance. Especially when it’s come because the V/AFL were gifted Waverley then sold it to get in on Docklands at a bargain price.

Player wages are massive. Whilst they deserve long term medical care and support the average player is now pushing 400k and draftees and getting  well in to 6 figures before they play a game. 

The soft cap budget was 9.7M before covid. It was slashed to 6.7M but that’s still a very healthy number, and they’ve added 750k back in and made certain welfare costs exempt.

Thankfully there is a cap tho, next thing they need is a cap on the AFL and clubs executives because especially at the AFL things are out of control. That’s where the extra money goes to. The AFL find ways to sell more of the games soul and budget the profits to themselves.

7:50 Fridays, 3:20 Sundays, 4:40 Sundays in the middle of winter that they call twilight, Thursday night footy, a brief flirtation with Monday night footy. They’ve finally run out of time zones so now they’re moving games!

The continued growth of the broadcast rights should easily cover growth in player wages, growth in the footy cap and plenty of cash distributions to clubs. An extra round is just greed. Why the players signed off on it is beyond me. 

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5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Congrats for drinking all the AFL Kool Aid.

The AFL was in a strong financial position as any business that’s been running largely unchallenged for 150 years should be. Having enough cash to weather a sudden disruption should be the bare minimum for acceptable governance. Especially when it’s come because the V/AFL were gifted Waverley then sold it to get in on Docklands at a bargain price.

Player wages are massive. Whilst they deserve long term medical care and support the average player is now pushing 400k and draftees and getting  well in to 6 figures before they play a game. 

The soft cap budget was 9.7M before covid. It was slashed to 6.7M but that’s still a very healthy number, and they’ve added 750k back in and made certain welfare costs exempt.

Thankfully there is a cap tho, next thing they need is a cap on the AFL and clubs executives because especially at the AFL things are out of control. That’s where the extra money goes to. The AFL find ways to sell more of the games soul and budget the profits to themselves.

7:50 Fridays, 3:20 Sundays, 4:40 Sundays in the middle of winter that they call twilight, Thursday night footy, a brief flirtation with Monday night footy. They’ve finally run out of time zones so now they’re moving games!

The continued growth of the broadcast rights should easily cover growth in player wages, growth in the footy cap and plenty of cash distributions to clubs. An extra round is just greed. Why the players signed off on it is beyond me. 

Ummm, ok, what local suburban leagues  do you attend?

The AFL wanting to be a profit generating exercise is not new.

Players get what 28% or revenue? The NBA has it as 51%.

Are we playing less praccy games or pointless pre-season games? 

I don’t care that much tbh, but this extra game is fine. The teams are better with the talent pool recovering from the expansion teams and with the coaching and FD of teams in the best place than in years.

 

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1 hour ago, rpfc said:

Ummm, ok, what local suburban leagues  do you attend?

The AFL wanting to be a profit generating exercise is not new.

Players get what 28% or revenue? The NBA has it as 51%.

Are we playing less praccy games or pointless pre-season games? 

I don’t care that much tbh, but this extra game is fine. The teams are better with the talent pool recovering from the expansion teams and with the coaching and FD of teams in the best place than in years.

 

The US sports farm out development to Colleges and high schools, as well as expensive private clubs which in certain sports drastically hampers then playing pool. I'm not sure why we'd care what they're doing in that failure of a country anyway.

Yes, they technically cut down from 3 to 2 (2 to 1 official) practice games but most teams had full scale intraclubs and we've been training at full contact since November. Practice matches and trainings allow for underdone guys to be managed, there's no such allowance in games.

Several clubs - St Kilda, WC, Richmond, Ess - are already loaded with ten or more injuries. The Eagles side we played on Sunday was an absolute mess in round 4, good luck to them trying to get through 19 more weeks.

Edited April 11, 2023 by DeeSpencer

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[AzzKikA 2,371]

1 minute ago, adonski said:

Geeze Salo still 3-5 weeks. Lucky McV is going alright.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,137]

What does "Pelvis" mean in injury-speak?

[Guest]

3 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Ps are you the woo hoo man?

I know who the woo hoo man is. Thought that mystery had been solved already. 

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11 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I know who the woo hoo man is. Thought that mystery had been solved already. 

Do tell.

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13 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

What does "Pelvis" mean in injury-speak?

Rebranded OP

[Kev 10,926]

Gather round "free to air" (FTA) broadcast.

Looks like QLD, WA, NSW, get to watch their teams on FTA.

VIC get to watch; Adelaide v Carlton,  Richmond v Sydney, Port v Bulldogs, Giants v Hawthorn, on free to air.

Not Collingwood v Saints, or Melbourne v Essendon. 

if they are pushing all into one state, why don't they maximise the exposure of VIC teams on FTA?

They give the other States access on FTA on all their teams, even SA.

At least I get the replay on AFL live the next day.

 

Edited April 11, 2023 by kev martin

[YearOfTheDees 3,266]

So we are the home team this week end.

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1 minute ago, YearOfTheDees said:

So we are the home team this week end.

No, away team.

[DeeSpencer 26,681]

1 minute ago, kev martin said:

No, away team.

No, classic afl late change, we won the toss 

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45 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

What does "Pelvis" mean in injury-speak?

His pelvis is injured.

Edited April 11, 2023 by Nascent

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51 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

Geeze Salo still 3-5 weeks. Lucky McV is going alright.

In better news, Gawn is at 1-2 already which puts him in the frame for Anzac Eve. Would be amazing if he only missed 3 games. 

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AFL just sent out a post on Facebook about the home/away team decisions for this round and it has our game at 3.40pm… the fixture has always said 4.10pm, right?

 

edit. Ignore: didn’t factor in the different time zone thing

Edited April 11, 2023 by The Jackson FIX

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27 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Do tell.

A very good friend of mine (former DL-er who went by the name Skuit/Skort) has a brother who until recently worked in the A/V department of Adelaide Oval. He discovered the woo hoo man’s identity. Turns out it’s a cameraman who has worked at AO for many years. He always works when we play there. No one there knows if he’s even a Dees supporter. They just know he loves a Dees goal. 😀

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52 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

What does "Pelvis" mean in injury-speak?

Hip perhaps? Pelvis is the big bone connecting the upper body to the legs.

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9 minutes ago, kev martin said:

No, away team.

 

8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

No, classic afl late change, we won the toss 

So is it our home game or not? I need to know since I don’t relish the idea of accidentally sitting with the 🤮 Essendon 🤮 cheer squad. 

[AzzKikA 2,371]

11 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Hip perhaps? Pelvis is the big bone connecting the upper body to the legs.

Pelvis fractures mean pelvis fractures.

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1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

What does "Pelvis" mean in injury-speak?

He has a bone stress injury to the pelvis, something caused by being still growing apparently

It was up on the injury report when he first did it, but they have simplified it to pelvis 

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3 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

 

So is it our home game or not? I need to know since I don’t relish the idea of accidentally sitting with the 🤮 Essendon 🤮 cheer squad. 

I guess you’ll be sitting in the Port cheersquad end tho?

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Just now, AzzKikA said:

Pelvis fractures mean pelvis fractures.

Yeah I mean I tried to explain the general area where the pelvis is located.