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2 hours ago, WheeloRatings said:

I have expanded the range of information included in the stats files updates, which now include Key Team Stats, pressure for all players (including their season average), and scores from the region where chains started. All except the data sourced from the Herald Sun has now been automated, so let me know if additional information can be included or if anything is unclear.

Looking at the score sources for last night - Geelong scored 19 points to 1 from chains starting in defensive 50 (13-1 from turnovers), and 20 points to 2 from chains starting in the centre/corridor (18-1 from turnovers). A total of 39 points to 3 - Melbourne average 37.3 points to 24.9 from these locations this season.

Melbourne concede 5.8 points on average from turnovers in the centre and 5.4 points from turnovers in our opponents' defensive 50.

That is so brilliant wheelo. I love the layout.

I will def have think if there is anything that could be added, but it looks super comprehensive.

I was actually going to ask if you could include some of the stats under the key stats header because for the podcast i have been taking the numbers you have post in this tread, and toggle across to your home page to create a list that includes CPs, meters gained and inside 50s (i didn't ask coz i figured you spent enough time helping me out!).

So massive thanks.

The three key stat for mine in terms of understanding this game is scores from turnover, time in forward half and most of all the remarkable drop off in our pressure ratings in the last q - we were totally cooked. And we did brilliantly to avoid a blowout.  

 

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8 minutes ago, binman said:

The three key stat for mine in terms of understanding this game is scores from turnover, time in forward half and most of all the remarkable drop off in our pressure ratings in the last q - we were totally cooked. And we did brilliantly to avoid a blowout.  

it's the second time we've avoided a blow out in losses

if only the lights went off last night we might've won!

with the d50 transition scoring, i can't believe how easily we allow teams to exit d50 - our set-up defensive zone would appear to me to have moved back a contest compared to earlier in the year

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5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

with the d50 transition scoring, i can't believe how easily we allow teams to exit d50 - our set-up defensive zone would appear to me to have moved back a contest compared to earlier in the year

Yes - and i have zero doubt it is because of fatigue (accumulative and increased load). 

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2 hours ago, binman said:

That is so brilliant wheelo. I love the layout.

I will def have think if there is anything that could be added, but it looks super comprehensive.

I was actually going to ask if you could include some of the stats under the key stats header because for the podcast i have been taking the numbers you have post in this tread, and toggle across to your home page to create a list that includes CPs, meters gained and inside 50s (i didn't ask coz i figured you spent enough time helping me out!).

So massive thanks.

The three key stat for mine in terms of understanding this game is scores from turnover, time in forward half and most of all the remarkable drop off in our pressure ratings in the last q - we were totally cooked. And we did brilliantly to avoid a blowout.  

 

Thanks binman, I'm more than happy to assist where I can. If it's information I have direct access to, it may not require much effort to incorporate into these updates.

And I'm glad you like the layout!

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Round 15, 2023 Tax Payer Park - Cats vs Demons

Have added Player and Team Season Ratings up to last week to provide a bit of a form guide as to how player's have faired statistically from week to week.

Obviously one week's result vs the more robust season average needs to be considered when making comparisons.

Demons

Scoring Efficiency  
Disposals Per Goal  45.62
% In50s Goal 15.40
Conversion %

34.80

Cats

Scoring Efficiency

 
Disposals Per Goal  31.09
% In50s Goal 20.80
Conversion %

47.80

Player Rating Rank Season Rating to Prior Rnd % Change vs Season Rating
T Rivers 4.950 1 3.664 35.10
C Petracca 4.875 2 4.767 2.27
C Salem 4.075 3 3.350 21.64
Jake Lever 3.450 4 2.954 16.79
B Grundy 3.325 5 3.171 4.86
A Brayshaw 3.025 6 3.817 -20.75
S May 2.800 7 3.202 -12.55
Max Gawn 2.800 7 3.208 -12.72
Jack Viney 2.750 9 3.729 -26.25
L Hunter 2.725 10 2.996 -9.05
J McVee 2.575 11 2.204 16.83
Ed Langdon 2.400 12 2.983 -19.54
A N-Bullen 2.350 13 2.721 -13.63
K Pickett 2.300 14 2.368 -2.87
M Hibberd 2.200 15 2.641 -16.70
Joel Smith  2.125 16 1.663 27.78
T Sparrow 1.950 17 3.085 -36.79
K Chandler 1.900 18 2.464 -22.89
B Fritsch 1.825 19 2.269 -19.57
J V Rooyen 1.625 20 2.234 -27.26
H Petty 1.125 21 2.432 -53.74
James Jordon < 51% 0.825 22 3.734 -77.91
C Spargo > 21% 0.000 23 1.935 -100.00
Team Rating 57.98   71.57 -19.00
Top 6 23.70   26.63 -11.00
Bottom 6 9.25   9.48 -2.43

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Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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Thanks DD provides great insight to our performance, Team Rating says it all 19% drop off and top 6 down 11% can’t win games with that type of performance. Disappointing really.!!!

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On 6/23/2023 at 9:09 AM, WheeloRatings said:

I have expanded the range of information included in the stats files updates, which now include Key Team Stats, pressure for all players (including their season average), and scores from the region where chains started. All except the data sourced from the Herald Sun has now been automated, so let me know if additional information can be included or if anything is unclear.

Looking at the score sources for last night - Geelong scored 19 points to 1 from chains starting in defensive 50 (13-1 from turnovers), and 20 points to 2 from chains starting in the centre/corridor (18-1 from turnovers). A total of 39 points to 3 - Melbourne average 37.3 points to 24.9 from these locations this season.

Melbourne concede 5.8 points on average from turnovers in the centre and 5.4 points from turnovers in our opponents' defensive 50.

Thanks for this Wheelo.

Just a quick one.

The AFL ap had us scoring 4 points from defensive half chains and Geelong scoring 33 points. Is there a discrepancy?

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20 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Round 15, 2023 Tax Payer Park - Cats vs Demons

Have added Player and Team Season Ratings up to last week to provide a bit of a form guide as to how player's have faired statistically from week to week.

Obviously one week's result vs the more robust season average needs to be considered when making comparisons.

Demons

Scoring Efficiency  
Disposals Per Goal  45.62
% In50s Goal 15.40
Conversion %

34.80

Cats

Scoring Efficiency

 
Disposals Per Goal  31.09
% In50s Goal 20.80
Conversion %

47.80

Player Rating Rank Season Rating to Prior Rnd % Change vs Season Rating
T Rivers 4.950 1 3.664 35.10
C Petracca 4.875 2 4.767 2.27
C Salem 4.075 3 3.350 21.64
Jake Lever 3.450 4 2.954 16.79
B Grundy 3.325 5 3.171 4.86
A Brayshaw 3.025 6 3.817 -20.75
S May 2.800 7 3.202 -12.55
Max Gawn 2.800 7 3.208 -12.72
Jack Viney 2.750 9 3.729 -26.25
L Hunter 2.725 10 2.996 -9.05
J McVee 2.575 11 2.204 16.83
Ed Langdon 2.400 12 2.983 -19.54
A N-Bullen 2.350 13 2.721 -13.63
K Pickett 2.300 14 2.368 -2.87
M Hibberd 2.200 15 2.641 -16.70
Joel Smith  2.125 16 1.663 27.78
T Sparrow 1.950 17 3.085 -36.79
K Chandler 1.900 18 2.464 -22.89
B Fritsch 1.825 19 2.269 -19.57
J V Rooyen 1.625 20 2.234 -27.26
H Petty 1.125 21 2.432 -53.74
James Jordon < 51% 0.825 22 3.734 -77.91
C Spargo > 21% 0.000 23 1.935 -100.00
Team Rating 57.98   71.57 -19.00
Top 6 23.70   26.63 -11.00
Bottom 6 9.25   9.48 -2.43

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Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

Rivers had a whopping 12 intercept possessions (only bettered by Lever who had 14 - Rivers had +3 more than the next best), 6 score involvements and only 3 turnovers from 25 disposals. He seemed to be playing 1+ in front of our defenders. Floated across in front of packs multiple times. Played a very good game, I thought. One of his best. If he'd nailed that goal, it would probably have been his best game.

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2 hours ago, A F said:

Thanks for this Wheelo.

Just a quick one.

The AFL ap had us scoring 4 points from defensive half chains and Geelong scoring 33 points. Is there a discrepancy?

The stats I posted were scores from defensive 50 and corridor (centre square extended to the two 50m arcs), not defensive half. When I look at the stats by half instead, I also get 33 points to 4.

Here is the breakdown by half and region.

Half Region For Against
Defensive Centre 1 12
Defensive D50 1 19
Defensive Wing 2 2
Forward Centre 1 8
Forward F50 13 16
Forward Wing 45 21

I should note that there may be times when my figures for location of scoring chains won't align exactly with the official stats.

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2 hours ago, A F said:

Rivers had a whopping 12 intercept possessions (only bettered by Lever who had 14 - Rivers had +3 more than the next best), 6 score involvements and only 3 turnovers from 25 disposals. He seemed to be playing 1+ in front of our defenders. Floated across in front of packs multiple times. Played a very good game, I thought. One of his best. If he'd nailed that goal, it would probably have been his best game.

Rivers has taken his game to another level this season.

I'm loving his intercept marking.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, binman said:

Rivers has taken his game to another level this season.

I'm loving his intercept marking.

Totally agree Binman huge improvement from young Rivers.!!! Entering Star status.!!!

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1 hour ago, binman said:

Rivers has taken his game to another level this season.

I'm loving his intercept marking.

I've been critical of his disposal, but he was excellent the other night. And his form overall has been strong IMO.

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4 hours ago, A F said:

Rivers had a whopping 12 intercept possessions (only bettered by Lever who had 14 - Rivers had +3 more than the next best), 6 score involvements and only 3 turnovers from 25 disposals. He seemed to be playing 1+ in front of our defenders. Floated across in front of packs multiple times. Played a very good game, I thought. One of his best. If he'd nailed that goal, it would probably have been his best game.

 

48 minutes ago, A F said:

I've been critical of his disposal, but he was excellent the other night. And his form overall has been strong IMO.

Some nice highlights there thanks AF.  Yes i've also been critical in some matches where i felt his VG work was being under mined by some horror turnovers in the worst parts of the ground.

I wasn't in any state to take notice of anyone's game in particular on Thurs night but it looks like a number on here are seeing this one of his best.  The turnover count is down as you have highlighted which is great to see and the part of his game that needed tightening up.

As Bin mentioned this would appear to be a break out year for the young defender with a big improvement on his 2022.

Taking a bit of a look at his best ratings so far (discounting the Eagles game a little given the way they've been traveling)...

Rnd 4 vs Eagles >  5.550 (ranked 2nd behind Clarry)

Rnd 9 vs Hawks >  5.150 (ranked 1st ahead of Clarry & Tracc)

Rnd 13 vs Magpies >  3.675 (ranked 4th behind Viney, Salem & Gus)

and of course this latest result which you have highlighted.

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Team & Player Ratings to Rnd 15, 2023 vs H&A Season 2022

Player 2023 Rating 2023 Rank 2022 Rating % Change vs 2022 2022 Rank Change in Rank vs 2022
C Oliver 5.285 1 5.320 -0.66 1 0
C Petracca 4.775 2 4.456 7.16 2 0
J Jordon > 3.986 3 3.164 25.98 9 6
A Brayshaw 3.761 4 3.839 -2.03 5 1
T Rivers < 3.757 5 2.423 55.06 18 13
Jack Viney 3.654 6 3.971 -7.98 3 -3
C Salem 3.495 7 3.363 3.93 7 0
B Grundy 3.182 8 - - - -
Steven May 3.169 9 3.971 -20.20 3 -6
Max Gawn 3.168 10 3.643 -13.04 8 -2
Jake Bowey < 3.078 11 2.856 7.77 13 2
T Sparrow 2.998 12 2.665 12.50 16 4
Jake Lever 2.992 13 2.703 10.69 14 1
Ed Langdon 2.983 14 3.109 -4.05 11 -3
L Hunter 2.975 15 - - - -
A Tomlinson 2.965 16 2.079 42.62 22 6
J Harmes > 2.938 17 3.082 -4.67 12 -5
A N-Bullen 2.695 18 2.688 0.26 15 -3
M Hibberd < 2.589 19 2.613 -0.92 17 -2
K Chandler < 2.423 20 - - - -
K Pickett 2.379 21 2.118 12.32 21 0
H Petty < 2.275 22 2.392 -4.89 19 -3
B Fritsch 2.235 23 1.936 15.44 27 4
Judd McVee 2.230 24 - - - -
J V Rooyen 2.183 25 - - - -
T McDonald 2.054 26 1.967 4.42 26 0
Ben Brown < 2.033 27 1.762 15.38 29 2
C Spargo < 1.891 28 1.981 -4.54 24 -4
Joel Smith 1.817 29 2.239 -18.85 20 -9
J Melksham > 1.437 30 1.947 -26.19 25 -5
J Schache * 1.375 31 - - - -
B Laurie < > * 1.300 32 - - - -
D Turner < * 1.075 33 - - - -
Team Rating 71.52   69.48 2.94    

* Played less than two full matches (in total)

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Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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9 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Thanks DD provides great insight to our performance, Team Rating says it all 19% drop off and top 6 down 11% can’t win games with that type of performance. Disappointing really.!!!

Yes DZ.  A few stuck their hand up and actually out-performed but you can't cover that many being way off their usual output.

The theory that the shorter break for us might actually assist didn't hold up on the night.

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On 6/23/2023 at 6:58 AM, WheeloRatings said:

Melbourne v Geelong (Round 15, 2023)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20231501

Key Team Stats

Stats highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Stat For Against Diff
Disposal Efficiency 66.6 61.7 +4.9
Kicking Efficiency 58.5 53.2 +5.3
Metres Gained 6206 6104 +102
Inside 50s 52 53 -1
Shots At Goal 22 26 -4
Shots Per Inside 50 42.3 49.1 -6.7
Contested Possessions 160 149 +11
Ground Ball Gets 106 104 +2
Intercepts 91 96 -5
Intercept Marks 23 19 +4
Centre Clearances 9 11 -2
Stoppage Clearances 38 24 +14
Contested Marks 10 12 -2
Marks Inside 50 8 12 -4
Hitouts 47 31 +16
Hitouts To Advantage 14 4 +10
Tackles 75 70 +5
Tackles Inside 50 19 8 +11
Def One On One Loss % 20.0 5.6 +14.4

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter For Against
1 183 206
2 224 175
3 214 197
4 163 204
Match 196 196

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player Pressure
Acts
Pressure
Points
Season
Average*
Christian Petracca 24 62 50.0
Jack Viney 23 54 52.8
Alex Neal-Bullen 20 51 49.1
Ed Langdon 26 50 28.2
Angus Brayshaw 24 50 26.6
Kysaiah Pickett 18 44 41.7
Christian Salem 20 39 31.8
Kade Chandler 17 37 32.7
Bayley Fritsch 15 37 20.4
Tom Sparrow 15 33 45.3
Lachie Hunter 14 32 23.5
Joel Smith 12 31 22.7
James Jordon 13 30 18.7
Trent Rivers 13 28 24.1
Judd McVee 12 26 19.4
Max Gawn 9 23 22.5
Jacob van Rooyen 10 22 24.8
Steven May 8 20 14.2
Harrison Petty 7 18 21.2
Michael Hibberd 6 16 12.2
Brodie Grundy 5 11 26.9
Charlie Spargo 4 9 23.9
Jake Lever 4 7 12.6

* Pressure points for rounds 4 and 6 have not been able to be sourced from the Herald Sun. Pressure points for these matches have been estimated from the number of pressure acts for each player.

Source: Herald Sun

Time in Forward Half

Quarter For Against
1 42% 58%
2 67% 33%
3 50% 50%
4 50% 50%
Match 55% 45%

Source: Match total sourced from the Herald Sun; quarterly values are my own calculations.

Score Sources

Summary

Score sources highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Category For Against Diff
G B T G B T
Kick-in 0 0 0 0 0 0 +0
Centre Bounce 0 1 1 0 2 2 -1
Stoppage (Other) 4 6 30 3 1 19 +11
Turnover 4 8 32 8 9 57 -25
Category For Against
Match Season Match Season
Kick-in 0 3.1 0 2.8
Centre Bounce 1 11.1 2 7.6
Stoppage (Other) 30 22.6 19 22.8
Turnover 32 56.1 57 39.3

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective. Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Geelong.

Category Region For Against
Match Season Match Season
Kick-in D50 0 3.1 0 2.8
Centre Bounce Centre 1 11.1 2 7.6
Stoppage (Other) D50 0 0.4 6 2.3
Stoppage (Other) Centre 0 2.9 0 1.0
Stoppage (Other) Wing 19 11.3 7 6.6
Stoppage (Other) F50 11 7.9 6 12.9
Turnover D50 1 10.9 13 5.4
Turnover Centre 1 8.8 18 5.8
Turnover Wing 28 30.1 16 19.9
Turnover F50 2 6.3 10 8.2
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season
Centre 2 22.8 20 14.4
D50 1 14.5 19 10.5
F50 13 14.2 16 21.1
Wing 47 41.4 23 26.5

Shots at goal

Team Shots G B T Acc.
General Play
Melbourne 14 4 8 32 28.6
Geelong 12 5 6 36 41.7
Set Position
Melbourne 8 4 2 26 50.0
Geelong 14 6 4 40 42.9

Centre Bounce Attendances

  CBAs CBA % 2023 % 2022 %
Jack Viney 20 87 68.5 74.6
Christian Petracca 20 87 65.9 74.6
Max Gawn 15 65 47.0 65.5
Angus Brayshaw 13 57 16.1 16.0
Tom Sparrow 12 52 47.8 32.2
Brodie Grundy 8 35 57.1 83.7
James Jordon 3 13 19.0 0.2
Trent Rivers 1 4 4.5 0.0
Kysaiah Pickett 0 0 12.9 1.3
Jacob van Rooyen 0 0 5.3  
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0 3.7 3.5
Harrison Petty 0 0 1.2 0.0
Clayton Oliver     82.8 86.5
James Harmes     28.7 14.6
Tom McDonald     5.4 0.0
Josh Schache     0.0 13.8

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

  Ruck
Contests
RC % 2023 % 2022 %
Max Gawn 48 45 43.1 57.8
Brodie Grundy 42 40 50.5 77.4
Jacob van Rooyen 15 14 9.6  
Steven May 1 1 0.1 0.0
Harrison Petty 0 0 2.7 0.0
Christian Petracca 0 0 0.1 0.1
Tom McDonald     8.9 7.0
Josh Schache     6.7 13.4
Ben Brown     3.8 3.6
Clayton Oliver     0.0 0.0

Hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
To Adv. %
(2023)
To Adv. %
(2022)
Max Gawn 48 23 8 31.4 33.6
Brodie Grundy 42 19 5 32.8 30.2
Jacob van Rooyen 15 5 1 16.7  
Harrison Petty 0 0 0 22.2  
Tom McDonald       25.0 33.3
Ben Brown       0.0 14.3
Josh Schache         33.3

Opposition hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
Rhys Stanley 85 26 3
Mark Blicavs 12 3 1
Tom Hawkins 9 2 0

Wheelo, this is great stuff. Question - Do you have data on Centre Clearances to Advantage and Stoppages to Advantage? This would compliment the Hitouts to Advantage stat. 

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4 hours ago, djr said:

Wheelo, this is great stuff. Question - Do you have data on Centre Clearances to Advantage and Stoppages to Advantage? This would compliment the Hitouts to Advantage stat. 

Thanks djr. No, unfortunately that type of information is not available in the data I have access to.


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Melbourne v Greater Western Sydney (Round 16, 2023)

https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_match_stats.html?ID=20231606

Key Team Stats

Stats highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Stat For Against Diff
Disposal Efficiency 62.9 66.4 -3.5
Kicking Efficiency 50.0 56.8 -6.8
Metres Gained 6679 6582 +97
Inside 50s 73 46 +27
Shots At Goal 26 12 +14
Shots Per Inside 50 35.6 26.1 +9.5
Contested Possessions 187 143 +44
Ground Ball Gets 133 108 +25
Intercepts 113 108 +5
Intercept Marks 19 12 +7
Centre Clearances 14 2 +12
Stoppage Clearances 33 26 +7
Contested Marks 6 4 +2
Marks Inside 50 5 3 +2
Hitouts 34 24 +10
Hitouts To Advantage 8 9 -1
Tackles 57 72 -15
Tackles Inside 50 17 5 +12
Def One On One Loss % 28.6 11.1 +17.5

Pressure

Team pressure

Quarter For Against
1 182 162
2 192 182
3 173 225
4 196 181
Match 186 187

Source: Herald Sun

Most Pressure Points

Note: pressure points are the weighed sum of pressure acts. Physical pressure acts are worth 3.75 points, closing acts are worth 2.25 points, chasing acts are 1.5 points and corralling are 1.2. ( https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/ )

Player Pressure
Acts
Pressure
Points
Season
Average*
Jack Viney 26 65 53.7
Alex Neal-Bullen 28 64 50.1
Angus Brayshaw 23 52 28.3
Christian Petracca 21 47 49.8
Kysaiah Pickett 23 47 42.1
James Harmes 24 47 36.3
Joel Smith 20 43 27.8
Christian Salem 13 31 31.7
Lachie Hunter 15 30 24.0
Tom Sparrow 13 28 44.1
Kade Chandler 15 28 32.3
Ed Langdon 13 28 28.2
Brodie Grundy 14 28 26.9
Jake Melksham 13 27 15.0
Trent Rivers 8 22 24.0
Jake Lever 13 22 13.3
Harrison Petty 8 19 20.9
Ben Brown 8 19 10.8
Max Gawn 8 17 22.1
Jake Bowey 8 14 20.5
Steven May 5 13 14.1
Judd McVee 7 12 18.9
Bayley Fritsch 0 0 19.0

* Pressure points for rounds 4 and 6 have not been able to be sourced from the Herald Sun. Pressure points for these matches have been estimated from the number of pressure acts for each player.

Source: Herald Sun

Time in Forward Half

Quarter For Against
1 61% 39%
2 57% 43%
3 63% 37%
4 52% 48%
Match 60% 40%

Source: Match total sourced from the Herald Sun; quarterly values are my own calculations.

Score Sources

Summary

Score sources highlighted purple were won by Melbourne.

Category For Against Diff
G B T G B T
Kick-in 0 0 0 0 1 1 -1
Centre Bounce 1 0 6 0 0 0 +6
Stoppage (Other) 1 6 12 1 0 6 +6
Turnover 3 9 27 6 4 40 -13
Category For Against
Match Season Match Season
Kick-in 0 2.9 1 2.7
Centre Bounce 6 10.7 0 7.1
Stoppage (Other) 12 21.9 6 21.7
Turnover 27 54.1 39 39.3

Chain start region

Note: region is from the scoring team's perspective. Against season average represents average points conceded by Melbourne across the season, not average points scored by Greater Western Sydney.

Category Region For Against
Match Season Match Season
Kick-in D50 0 2.9 1 2.7
Centre Bounce Centre 6 10.7 0 7.1
Stoppage (Other) D50 0 0.4 0 2.1
Stoppage (Other) Centre 1 2.8 0 0.9
Stoppage (Other) Wing 3 10.7 6 6.6
Stoppage (Other) F50 8 7.9 0 12.0
Turnover D50 1 10.3 7 5.5
Turnover Centre 0 8.2 0 5.4
Turnover Wing 14 29.0 26 20.3
Turnover F50 12 6.7 6 8.1
Region For Against
Match Season Match Season
D50 1 13.6 8 10.3
Centre 7 21.7 0 13.4
Wing 17 39.7 32 26.9
F50 20 14.6 6 20.1

Points from defensive half

For Against
Match Season Match Season
11 33.5 15 23.5

Shots at goal

Team Shots G B T Acc.
General Play
Melbourne 17 2 10 22 11.8
Greater Western Sydney 6 3 3 21 50.0
Set Position
Melbourne 9 3 4 22 33.3
Greater Western Sydney 6 4 1 25 66.7

Centre Bounce Attendances

  CBAs CBA % 2023 % 2022 %
Christian Petracca 12 75 66.2 74.6
Angus Brayshaw 12 75 18.5 16.0
Jack Viney 11 69 68.5 74.6
Max Gawn 9 56 47.5 65.5
Tom Sparrow 8 50 47.8 32.2
Brodie Grundy 7 44 56.6 83.7
James Harmes 3 19 27.8 14.6
Trent Rivers 2 12 4.8 0.0
Kysaiah Pickett 0 0 12.2 1.3
Alex Neal-Bullen 0 0 3.6 3.5
Harrison Petty 0 0 1.1 0.0
Clayton Oliver     82.8 86.5
James Jordon     19.0 0.2
Tom McDonald     5.4 0.0
Jacob van Rooyen     5.3  
Josh Schache     0.0 13.8

Ruck Contests and Hitouts

Ruck Contests

  Ruck
Contests
RC % 2023 % 2022 %
Max Gawn 48 56 44.1 57.8
Brodie Grundy 34 40 49.8 77.4
Ben Brown 3 4 3.7 3.6
Harrison Petty 0 0 2.5 0.0
Steven May 0 0 0.1 0.0
Christian Petracca 0 0 0.1 0.1
Jacob van Rooyen     9.6  
Tom McDonald     8.9 7.0
Josh Schache     6.7 13.4
Clayton Oliver     0.0 0.0

Hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
To Adv. %
(2023)
To Adv. %
(2022)
Max Gawn 48 17 6 31.6 33.6
Brodie Grundy 34 16 2 31.8 30.2
Ben Brown 3 1 0 0.0 14.3
Harrison Petty 0 0 0 22.2  
Tom McDonald       25.0 33.3
Jacob van Rooyen       16.7  
Josh Schache         33.3

Opposition hitouts

  Ruck
Contests
Hitouts To
Adv.
Kieren Briggs 58 20 8
Lachlan Keeffe 27 4 1

Expected score from Champion Data

77 - 43

 

 

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+70 possessions. 
+42 contested possessions. 
+27 inside 50’s. 
+ 8 scoring shots. 
+15 free kicks. 
+19 clearances
lost by two points 

Goodwin.  Time to fix it.  You’re the coach.  Our forward structure is horrible.  Entries into forward 50 are haphazard.  “We’ve been working on it”.  Wow. It doesn’t show. It’s got worse in fact.  

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Stat For Against Diff
Disposal Efficiency 62.9 66.4 -3.5
Kicking Efficiency 50.0 56.8 -6.8
Metres Gained 6679 6582 +97
Inside 50s 73 46 +27
Shots At Goal 26 12 +14
Shots Per Inside 50 35.6 26.1 +9.5
Contested Possessions 187 143 +44
Ground Ball Gets 133 108 +25
Intercepts 113 108 +5
Intercept Marks 19 12 +7
Centre Clearances 14 2 +12
Stoppage Clearances 33 26 +7
Contested Marks 6 4 +2
Marks Inside 50 5 3 +2
Hitouts 34 24 +10
Hitouts To Advantage 8 9 -1
Tackles 57 72 -15
Tackles Inside 50 17 5 +12
Def One On One Loss % 28.6 11.1 +17.5
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Spirit ONS these stats are absolutely mind boggling we are so good in so many ways and so so poor at finishing our great work.!!!!

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Round 16, 2023 TIO Traegar Park - Demons vs Giants

Much effort made by many only to result in a shocker forward of center (again).

At least 12 of the 22 a long way off their season averages and those averages include last week's poor outcome.  Some of them a mile off.  A few others holding up their end.  Viney, Bowey & Lever.  Petty a much better result vs his come back last week.

6.8% of inside 50s into goals has to be some sort of low record for us and the AFL surely.

Top 22 Team rating off the season average by a massive 18% tells the tale.  Highly unlikely you will beat many teams at all in that sort of form.

Big lift needed by many but also some signifcant ins/outs are needed.  Goodwin needs to reward those performing at Casey starting this week and consider a number of difficult cuts to some of the regulars that are usually automatic inclusions every week who just aren't performing and in some cases significantly under-performing of late.

I suspect a fair chunk of that rating (aside from poor form from a number of players) lies with the inability of some/many to handle the wet / greasy conditions plus the disconnect / inefficiencies forward.

Demons

Scoring Efficiency  
Disposals Per Goal  87.80
% In50s Goal 6.80
Conversion % 25.00

Giants

Scoring Efficiency  
Disposals Per Goal  53.14
% In50s Goal 15.20
Conversion %

58.30

Player Rating Rank Season Rating to Prior Rnd % Change vs Season Rating
J Viney 4.350 1 3.654 19.05
C Petracca 3.975 2 4.775 -16.75
H Petty 3.950 3 2.275 73.63
J Bowey 3.875 4 3.078 25.89
A Brayshaw 3.700 5 3.761 -1.62
Jake Lever 3.650 6 2.992 21.99
Max Gawn 3.325 7 3.168 4.96
Ed Langdon 3.025 7 2.983 1.41
S May 2.950 9 3.168 -6.88
B Grundy 2.850 10 3.182 -10.43
C Salem 2.725 11 3.495 -22.03
T Rivers 2.475 12 3.757 -34.12
T Sparrow 2.450 13 2.998 -18.28
L Hunter 2.325 14 2.975 -21.85
B Brown 2.325 15 2.033 14.36
J Harmes 2.325 15 2.938 -20.86
J McVee 1.875 17 2.230 -15.92
K Chandler 1.500 18 2.423 -38.09
K Pickett 1.450 19 2.379 -39.05
J Melksham > 69% 1.150 20 1.437 -19.97
Joel Smith 0.925 21 1.817 -49.09
A N-Bullen 0.850 22 2.695 -68.46
B Fritsch < 7% 0.100 23 2.235 -95.53
Team Rating 58.03   71.52 -18.87
Top 6 23.50   26.43 -11.09
Bottom 6 7.75   9.36 -17.20

< Subbed out / TOG %

> Subbed in / TOG %

Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com

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6.8% of inside 50s into goals has to be some sort of low record for us and the AFL surely.

Of all the teams that have had 70+ inside 50s since 1998, yesterday was the outright lowest goals scored. Previous lowest was 6 goals. Conditions probably worse than most other 70+ inside 50 games, but still!

I only went back to 2012 for inside 50 conversion, but North Melbourne scored 1 goal from 34 inside 50s against Geelong!

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