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Analysis of the Demon’s Forward Line

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17 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

we love multiple talls deep contesting rather than balance it up with a tall and a small, have the tall fly and the small crumb.

This… so much this.

For the life of me I don’t get our forward set up, the ball can burst out of the centre or backline and somehow we STILL have 2-3 tall forwards all in the spot contesting for the same ball, with rarely a small still there to crumb.  

I’m regularly screaming at the TV asking how week after week we don’t address this.  Worst of all opposition with an otherwise organised defence don’t send all defenders up at once so our forwards spoil each other and they have the numbers when the ball inevitably spills out the footy rebounds with ease. 

Don’t get me started on the F50 entries either.  Long, high bombs of the horror years are back in vogue for the Dees and it’s just awful football to watch happen again and again and again…

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    6 minutes ago, Juk3b0x said:

    This… so much this.

    For the life of me I don’t get our forward set up, the ball can burst out of the centre or backline and somehow we STILL have 2-3 tall forwards all in the spot contesting for the same ball, with rarely a small still there to crumb.  

    I’m regularly screaming at the TV asking how week after week we don’t address this.  Worst of all opposition with an otherwise organised defence don’t send all defenders up at once so our forwards spoil each other and they have the numbers when the ball inevitably spills out the footy rebounds with ease. 

    Don’t get me started on the F50 entries either.  Long, high bombs of the horror years are back in vogue for the Dees and it’s just awful football to watch happen again and again and again…

    I had no confidence at all kicking into this forward line today. I really felt we needed a lucky flick off a pack to have any chance of scoring.

    I don't know what we do about it though, there aren't many more levers to pull here. Getting Kozzie into the middle to give us a better look at the middle robs Peter to pay Paul at them moment. Chandler can't seem to get near it, I really don't know the answers right now for this.

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    What forward line ?

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    11 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

    Simple - lack of any movement. Stand still and wait for the ball to land on your head. 

    And team work, still little to know blocking for Gawn or anyone else. 

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    I listened to Gus & Gawny’s podcast during the week, which had the Wiz as guest.

    He was talking about how dangerous they forward group was in his prime - Wiz, Schwartz, Neitta, Cam Bruce, Brad Green. Any of them could easily kick 3-4 and often a couple of them. Not dissimilar to the Brisbane example used.

    The way we setup is making a difficult task, kicking goals, almost impossible as it’s having to be done amongst 24 players by the time we get it in

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    3 hours ago, YearOfTheDees said:

    Simple - lack of any movement. Stand still and wait for the ball to land on your head. 

    The number of times we bombed it in to a 5 or 6-person pack was depressing. We couldn't take the mark and we couldn't win the crumb. Why do TMac, Roo and Gawn/Grundie all have to contest the same ball? Why isn't one leading to the right pocket, one to the left and one up the centre? FFS

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    A forwardline of Ablett, Dunstall and Buddy wouldn’t kick a goal with the sort of forward delivery our talls deal with on most weeks. 
    But also our tall forwards are either physically done or infants. We need to chase a developed tall forward with serious gusto in the off season. 

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    11 minutes ago, GOLORDIE said:

    The number of times we bombed it in to a 5 or 6-person pack was depressing. We couldn't take the mark and we couldn't win the crumb. Why do TMac, Roo and Gawn/Grundie all have to contest the same ball? Why isn't one leading to the right pocket, one to the left and one up the centre? FFS

    It was mountain pack madness 

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    3 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    What’s happening with Koz?

    I thought Koz almost won it for us today.

    Our delivery is atrocious.

    Something needs to change with our coaches and our processes. Both delivery in and our leading out.

    As someone mentioned, it seems almost like luck when we get a goal.

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    8 minutes ago, Brownie said:

    I thought Koz almost won it for us today.

    Our delivery is atrocious.

    Something needs to change with our coaches and our processes. Both delivery in and our leading out.

    As someone mentioned, it seems almost like luck when we get a goal.

    Certainly felt like most of our goals today were from luck 

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    9 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

    A forwardline of Ablett, Dunstall and Buddy wouldn’t kick a goal with the sort of forward delivery our talls deal with on most weeks. 
    But also our tall forwards are either physically done or infants. We need to chase a developed tall forward with serious gusto in the off season. 

    I reckon JVR should focus on athleticism and endurance in the off season. Be top 5 in time trials and be able to work your way up the ground and find some space to mark it.

    The way the game is played, contested marks in the forward line are rare, it's not a sustainable approach to have that as your major strength by bulking up and trying to be a physical beast to the exclusion of endurance.

    His ferocious attack on the ball will never leave him, no matter how many kg's he takes off. 

    We need a creative Jeremy Cameron/Harry Himmelberg type of dynamic forward more then we need a Tom Hawkins/Harry McKay clunk it type imo.

    Although we could try our hand at recruiting Harry Himmelberg if we can clear the cap space.

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