1 hour ago, dee-tox said:

It's a huge worry though. Missing two-three months of footy and resuming in a major final...

I reckon Fritsch might be back for the last game of the season. Listed as 4-5 so it is possible.

1 hour ago, dee-tox said:

It's a huge worry though. Missing two-three months of footy and resuming in a major final...

My worry is it is a foot injury - Fritters second this season. We saw with Tmac last year how difficult such injuries are to return from. 

I think I'm right in saying that like Tmac last year, friitter has had a plate put into his foot. The timing of the injuries are almost exactly the same, with, IIRC, Tmac really pushing hard and playing in the pre finals bye round at Casey to make a case for selection against the Lions.

Again, IIRC, Tmac injured his foot again in that game and that was that.

Well, almost - Tmac reported early this season the foot was still giving him problems in terms of pain management and was stiff etc after training and games. To my eye, it seemed to impact his mobility and performance level when he was playing (of course there could be other causes).

I have full confidence in the medical team, but i hope Fritter does not push too hard. No point risking a similar scenario to Tmac where the foot injury impacts his prep for the 2024 season.

We had no other realistic option for a second tall last season, other than perhaps JVR and we desperately needed a second tall, so very understandable they really pushed to have Tmac available for our first final, the Lions match. 

Yesterday's injury report had fritter at 4-5 weeks. The first final is in aprox five and a half weeks. So very much touch and go.

Whilst not having Fritter available for the first week of finals (which would of course be a blow), Melk, in his current form, is not bad cover.

The prelim is aprox seven and half weeks from today, which might be a better goal for Fritter's return.

Let's say we win week one of finals and go straight into a prelim. We would have a weeks break ahead of the prelim. We would likely use that break to play a full scale match sim, which would give Fritter a chance to push for selection and test his foot.

And of course, if the prelim was the target return game for fritter, he would perhaps have the opportunity to retune via Casey, assuming we are still in the hunt for the VFL flag. 

The Casey finals schedule presents an interesting curve ball.

The VFL are having a wild card round this season - 7th v 10th, and 8th v 9th - on the weekend of 26 August (which is also the last round of the AFL season).

It is possible we might slip to 7th or 8th (we are 5th) and have to play that weekend as we play 3 top 8 teams in Willy, the lions and the blues - and ridiculously we have another bye!

But is some ways that would be no bad thing, because if we don't play the the VFL wildcard round Casey will have yet another bye, which would mean no opportunity for Fritter (or Tmac for that matter) to play for Casey that weekend, in the event he is available to do so.

The VFL finals series starts the weekend of 2 September, so if we make finals Fritter and Tmac could possibly suit up for Casey that weekend. 

This years' VFL grand final is 24 September - same weekend as the AFL prelims. The VFL prelims are the previous week 

8 minutes ago, binman said:

My worry is it is a foot injury - Fritters second this season. We saw with Tmac last year how difficult such injuries are to return from. 

I think I'm right in saying that like Tmac last year, friitter has had a plate put into his foot. The timing of the injuries are almost exactly the same, with, IIRC, Tmac really pushing hard and playing in the pre finals bye round at Casey to make a case for selection against the Lions.

Again, IIRC, Tmac injured his foot again in that game and that was that.

Well, almost - Tmac reported early this season the foot was still giving him problems in terms of pain management and was stiff etc after training and games. To my eye, it seemed to impact his mobility and performance level when he was playing (of course there could be other causes).

I have full confidence in the medical team, but i hope Fritter does not push too hard. No point risking a similar scenario to Tmac where the foot injury impacts his prep for the 2024 season.

We had no other realistic option for a second tall last season, other than perhaps JVR and we desperately needed a second tall, so very understandable they really pushed to have Tmac available for our first final, the Lions match. 

Yesterday's injury report had fritter at 4-5 weeks. The first final is in aprox five and a half weeks. So very much touch and go.

Whilst not having Fritter available for the first week of finals (which would of course be a blow), Melk, in his current form, is not bad cover.

The prelim is aprox seven and half weeks from today, which might be a better goal for Fritter's return.

Let's say we win week one of finals and go straight into a prelim. We would have a weeks break ahead of the prelim. We would likely use that break to play a full scale match sim, which would give Fritter a chance to push for selection and test his foot.

And of course, if the prelim was the target return game for fritter, he would perhaps have the opportunity to retune via Casey, assuming we are still in the hunt for the VFL flag. 

The Casey finals schedule presents an interesting curve ball.

The VFL are having a wild card round this season - 7th v 10th, and 8th v 9th - on the weekend of 26 August (which is also the last round of the AFL season).

It is possible we might slip to 7th or 8th (we are 5th) and have to play that weekend as we play 3 top 8 teams in Willy, the lions and the blues - and ridiculously we have another bye!

But is some ways that would be no bad thing, because if we don't play the the VFL wildcard round Casey will have yet another bye, which would mean no opportunity for Fritter (or Tmac for that matter) to play for Casey that weekend, in the event he is available to do so.

The VFL finals series starts the weekend of 2 September, so if we make finals Fritter and Tmac could possibly suit up for Casey that weekend. 

This years' VFL grand final is 24 September - same weekend as the AFL prelims. The VFL prelims are the previous week 

As much as we all love him, playing Fritta fresh from injury in a QF, SF or PF is really a big risk - im not sure id be willing to take it especially with how we are covering for him now. Its a big unknown for sure and i'd love to get a game into him before he appears for us in a final. Unfortunately for him, the timing just may not work out for him. 

4 hours ago, DubDee said:

Glad we have the pre finals bye. Fritsch should be able to get some sort of hit out in before finals in 7 weeks

Don’t rely on VFL with their absurd number of byes.  (end of thousandth rant on this poor excuse use for a support competition)

Its all so vague regarding the return of Oliver & Fritsch.

Melbourne have to find permanent replacements  on the assumption neither player returns this season.

Theyre running out of time.

1 hour ago, Deebauched said:

Its all so vague regarding the return of Oliver & Fritsch.

Melbourne have to find permanent replacements  on the assumption neither player returns this season.

Theyre running out of time.

err ... Brayshaw and Melksham?

1 hour ago, Deebauched said:

Its all so vague regarding the return of Oliver & Fritsch.

Melbourne have to find permanent replacements  on the assumption neither player returns this season.

Theyre running out of time.

Oliver is a chance, Fritter I doubt, foot injuries take time I would rather him firing in 2024 than re injure it late in August. 

1 hour ago, Deebauched said:

Its all so vague regarding the return of Oliver & Fritsch.

Melbourne have to find permanent replacements  on the assumption neither player returns this season.

Theyre running out of time.

I’d say Oliver is almost certain to be back in 2-67 weeks and Fritta 5-56 weeks…quite clear

Re Bailey Fritsch ; my 8 year old grand daughter heard his name as Baby Fish.

Around here, that's what we call him!

3 minutes ago, Flag 2021 said:

Re Bailey Fritsch ; my 8 year old grand daughter heard his name as Baby Fish.

Around here, that's what we call him!

But, Flag, fish (other than the axolotl) don't have feet.

9 hours ago, monoccular said:

But, Flag, fish (other than the axolotl) don't have feet.

But your not 8 mono.

Anyone got inside info on Oliver?

 

 

33 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Anyone got inside info on Oliver?

 

 

That is the question of 2023 jr. 

37 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Anyone got inside info on Oliver?

 

 

Sounds like there is bit of a ‘Twist’ to this story.
It’s okay, I’ll leave now

Still very vague on Clayton. “Still got to hit markers and be comfortable hitting them.” Might be round 21/22, or round 1-2024.. Who knows. 

15 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said:

Sounds like there is bit of a ‘Twist’ to this story.
It’s okay, I’ll leave now

I over thought that joke.

Back in the day a twist was Mary Jane or the dragon in some paper twisted to secure it.

I don't think Dickens was talking about that when he called his character oliver twist.

9 hours ago, old dee said:

But your not 8 mono.

Oh to be 8 again - when I was 8 the Demons were just starting their decade of dominance.  ❤️💙❤️💙❤️💙

1 hour ago, Wodjathefirst said:

Sounds like there is bit of a ‘Twist’ to this story.
It’s okay, I’ll leave now

*shows door....

Sparrow listed as injured in the ins and outs. Anyone have mail on the injury type?

9 minutes ago, Borgzilla said:

Sparrow listed as injured in the ins and outs. Anyone have mail on the injury type?

There was mention of "calf tightness" at the end of training.

Edited July 27, 20231 yr by monoccular

Apparently Oliver’s extended time on the sidelines was due to him redoing his hammy a few weeks back. I don’t know whether this accepted fact and but I certainly had heard this too. It’s reliable source so hopefully that removes some of the mystery. 
 

 

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

There was mention of "calf tightness" at the end of training.

Ok so prob rest up and play a game at casey

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Apparently Oliver’s extended time on the sidelines was due to him redoing his hammy a few weeks back. I don’t know whether this accepted fact and but I certainly had heard this too. It’s reliable source so hopefully that removes some of the mystery. 
 

 

I have some tendon problems in the calf area.

I could run hard for about 25 minutes, without any effect the next day. I could continue running for more time, as long as I wanted, but the next day I was limping. 

Taking a full rest for 8 weeks was the only way I could repair the tendon. 

Though the tendon could ping at anytime, especially when sprinting, and I was back to 8 weeks of rest, massage, acupuncture, and ultrasound treatments. 

I found tendons to be the most complicated of injuries, I have had.

Get Clarry right, we need him for at least, the next 8 years.

 

 

Edited July 27, 20231 yr by kev martin

13 minutes ago, Borgzilla said:

Ok so prob rest up and play a game at casey

Doubt they will risk tom at casey

1 minute ago, kev martin said:

I have some tendon problems in the calf area.

I could run hard for about 25 minutes, without any effect the next day. I could continue running for as long as I wanted, but the next day I was limping. 

Taking a full rest for 8 weeks was the only way I could repair the tendon. 

Though the tendon could ping at anytime, especially when sprinting, and I was back to 8 weeks of rest, massage, acupuncture, and ultrasound treatments. 

I found tendons to be the most complicated of injuries, I have had.

Get Clarry right, we need him for at least, the next 8 years.

 

 

I get tendon - but has it actually ever been quoted as such? They said it’s near tendon but nothing definitive. In that context a retweak makes more sense that it being tendon and the nobody from the club saying as much.