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  On 13/10/2022 at 07:49, Demonland said:

 

Will be remembered for delivering one of the best and fairest hip and shoulders to Vines in the 2019 Anzac Eve game.

Absolutely knocked the stuffing out of him, the definition of a wasted talent.

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      On 13/10/2022 at 06:11, durango said:

    I am going to throw out a left field idea for the club talk to Ryder and convince him to Join the MFC on the rookie list as backup ruck for 1 year.

    If we weren't going for Grundy I would have considered this but not so much now. 

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      On 16/10/2022 at 23:23, Redleg said:

    Second father/son gone in a week. 

    Third, I assume you forgot Cordy.

    All 5 of their list changes so far are sons of former VFL/AFL players

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      On 14/10/2022 at 08:10, Demonland said:

     

    I don’t get this. If you make a change to allow lopsided trades you have to expect them to happen. Similarly it’s unfair on the player getting traded to ban them from being able to extend their contact. That goes against their free will to negotiate. 

    This is only an issue because gold coast put such a great pick with Bowes. If they offered up pick 20 he’d be at Essendon or Hawthorn and no one would be worried 

    I’d propose 2 changes

    1. Limit the amount any one player can be backloaded to stop players becoming expendable dumps to begin with. I’d say 20% loading at most

    2. Sort the gold coast suns out and just ban them from being stupid 

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      On 16/10/2022 at 23:51, DeeSpencer said:

    Third, I assume you forgot Cordy.

    All 5 of their list changes so far are sons of former VFL/AFL players

    I must be missing one: Wallis, Hunter, Cordy and Dunkley who is not a Dogs father/son. Who is the fifth one?

    They have three left Libba, West and Darcy.

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      On 16/10/2022 at 23:57, DeeSpencer said:

    I don’t get this. If you make a change to allow lopsided trades you have to expect them to happen. Similarly it’s unfair on the player getting traded to ban them from being able to extend their contact. That goes against their free will to negotiate. 

    This is only an issue because gold coast put such a great pick with Bowes. If they offered up pick 20 he’d be at Essendon or Hawthorn and no one would be worried 

    I’d propose 2 changes

    1. Limit the amount any one player can be backloaded to stop players becoming expendable dumps to begin with. I’d say 20% loading at most

    2. Sort the gold coast suns out and just ban them from being stupid 

    I don't think the issue is extending their contracts, it is more the offering of extra years to reduce it in the years currently held. The idea would be they have to pay the same amount as the current contract and then can re-negotiate the additional years.

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      On 17/10/2022 at 00:35, Redleg said:

    I must be missing one: Wallis, Hunter, Cordy and Dunkley who is not a Dogs father/son. Who is the fifth one?

    They have three left Libba, West and Darcy.

    Schache was the only other player who is no longer on their list. According to Wikipedia his late father Laurence played for the Bears in the early 90s.

    He played 29 games and kicked 64 goals for Brisbane in 91 and 92.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Schache

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      On 17/10/2022 at 01:07, Action Jackson said:

    I don't think the issue is extending their contracts, it is more the offering of extra years to reduce it in the years currently held. The idea would be they have to pay the same amount as the current contract and then can re-negotiate the additional years.

    So if they can renegotiate extra years then why make them carry the existing cap burden? Gold Coast could’ve done that with Bowes too. We’ve done that with players such as Tom McDonald, Gawn and Lever too I believe. Happened with Brodie and Peter Wright too.

    It seems to me like the Suns priced Bowes at 800k and didn’t even factor the Cats extending him. 

    And would it even solve the issue? If Geelong are forced to pay Bowes 1.6 over 2 and then do a deal with him to pay him 400k for the 2 years after that, what’s stopping them just back ending Cam Guthrie or Jack Henry or whoever else they have a long term deal? Take 100k per year from 2 players and move it to the back of their deals and you get the same smoothing.

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      On 17/10/2022 at 01:53, DeeSpencer said:

    So if they can renegotiate extra years then why make them carry the existing cap burden? Gold Coast could’ve done that with Bowes too. We’ve done that with players such as Tom McDonald, Gawn and Lever too I believe. Happened with Brodie and Peter Wright too.

    It seems to me like the Suns priced Bowes at 800k and didn’t even factor the Cats extending him. 

    And would it even solve the issue? If Geelong are forced to pay Bowes 1.6 over 2 and then do a deal with him to pay him 400k for the 2 years after that, what’s stopping them just back ending Cam Guthrie or Jack Henry or whoever else they have a long term deal? Take 100k per year from 2 players and move it to the back of their deals and you get the same smoothing.

    Because the whole point of them getting the pick 7 was to take on the contract, so by making it that they would have to pay the $850k next year as part of the deal to get pick 7. Gold Coast probably didn't even want to keep Bowes, which is why they did it and didn't renegotiate.

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    The contract should stand for the new club, simple. If the team ie GC want to pay some of his contract fine, but the cats should not have been able to pay the amount across more years. 

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      On 17/10/2022 at 08:21, Gorgoroth said:

    The contract should stand for the new club, simple. If the team ie GC want to pay some of his contract fine, but the cats should not have been able to pay the amount across more years. 

    i can't see that it matters much if the player agrees. it also means his total $ is bigger and he gets extra year(s)

    GC could have done the same but didn't want to

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      On 13/10/2022 at 21:38, layzie said:

    Freo missed out on Jeremy Sharp and I have no sympathy whatsoever!

    i put them at $1.01 to go back in for him net year when hes OOC, assumingly he continues to play as sporadically as he did this year again next/or if he plays 22 games

     

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