Farewell Luke Jackson

[layzie 34,396]

Would have thought Meek would be in this wantaway crew of bandits.

[Lucifers Hero 40,564]

Freo will have pick #13 in the draft which would have to be a starting point for any trade. 

With their future first at around the same level it is equivalent to Pick #3, altho as a rule I don't like using the draft points system to assess a trade; the arithmetic works but the odds of an elite player are much lower.  

But with a trade like that we can get two players for one or package the picks up and draft an elite player.

Edited September 11, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[BDA 23,031]

I wouldn't be surprised if Freo regress next year and miss finals so their future first may will be a top 10 pick. They've a similar system to us and a similarly dysfunctional forward line. Dogga won't solve that for them. The game has moved on from overly defensive game plan

I reckon this years and next years first rounder gets it done

Edited September 11, 2022 by BDA

[Dee Zephyr 19,290]

13 hours ago, Edward Langdon said:

The mood on this forum has been feral today and a few posters have gone the man rather than the ball today, no doubt about it.

Definitely some bullies on Demonland, without naming names.

A lot of man playing around here Edward. Imagine we met at a pub and started talking about the Demons. Then imagine someone gave an opinion and gets called a nuffie or numpty to his/her face because of that opinion. What would happen then? 
Bullies should be called out.

Edited September 11, 2022 by Dee Zephyr

[Ted Lasso 19,568]

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Freo will have pick #13 in the draft which would have to be a starting point for any trade. 

With their future first at around the same level it is equivalent to Pick #3, altho as a rule I don't like using the draft points system to assess a trade; the arithmetic works but the odds of an elite player are much lower.  

But with a trade like that we can get two players for one or package the picks up and draft an elite player.

I'd be telling fremantle to get that pick 10 or 11 or whatever it is off the dogs in the Lobb trade and give us 11, 13 and Meek 

2 first rounders and a young developing ruckman is fair for a bloke they think is work 7 mil

[Lucifers Hero 40,564]

5 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I'd be telling fremantle to get that pick 10 or 11 or whatever it is off the dogs in the Lobb trade and give us 11, 13 and Meek 

2 first rounders and a young developing ruckman is fair for a bloke they think is work 7 mil

I doubt they will get the dog's first pick for Lobb even if they throw in Logue.

Freo will probably be bottom end of the 8 next year so their 2020 first will be in the 11-13 range so not a lot of diff with this year's dog's first.  mfc is pragmatic and will to the deal that gets us the player's picks we want.  If we want Meek we may give them a 3rd round pick back with the two firsts. 

Of course if we take Grundy, Pies will be pushing for one of those first round picks.

[Ted Lasso 19,568]

5 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I doubt they will get the dog's first pick for Lobb even if they throw in Logue.

Freo will probably be bottom end of the 8 next year so their 2020 first will be in the 11-13 range so not a lot of diff with this year's dog's first.  mfc is pragmatic and will to the deal that gets us the player's picks we want.  If we want Meek we may give them a 3rd round pick back with the two firsts. 

Of course if we take Grundy, Pies will be pushing for one of those first round picks.

I think my take on this would be that it's up to Fremantle to work it out, but 2 x first rounders for 22 is a good start, i'd be spitting chips if we gave up a first rounder for Grundy given they're pushing him out the door 

[layzie 34,396]

If the trade ended up being essentially Jackson for Grundy would you be happy or kick tailgates?

[Dee Zephyr 19,290]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

If the trade ended up being essentially Jackson for Grundy would you be happy or kick tailgates?

I’d be kicking more than tailgates layz.

[Lucifers Hero 40,564]

3 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I think my take on this would be that it's up to Fremantle to work it out, but 2 x first rounders for 22 is a good start, i'd be spitting chips if we gave up a first rounder for Grundy given they're pushing him out the door 

I desperately hope we don't give Coll a first, in fact I would prefer not to get him at all.  But I fear that we will get him and give up a first or equivalent for him, not necessarily one of Freo's.   Just don't see them accepting a second for him which will be in the 30's.  Our future first might get it done which for a player around $700k looks about right.

It depends on what other trades Coll want to do.  Perhaps not as desperate for a first for Grundy now that Taranto and Hopper have nominated Richmond.  The other trades mooted for them are Hill from GWS and Frampton from Port which won't be first rounders or anything like it.

[WERRIDEE 5,601]

26 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

I'd be telling fremantle to get that pick 10 or 11 or whatever it is off the dogs in the Lobb trade and give us 11, 13 and Meek 

2 first rounders and a young developing ruckman is fair for a bloke they think is work 7 mil

How old is Meek? Don't need him have faith in Weid as cover for Gawn and Grundy. I think pick 32 should be enough to get Grundy.

[Nascent 9,336]

4 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Not while Casey are in the finals.

Ah yes, good point.

[Ted Lasso 19,568]

1 minute ago, WERRIDEE said:

How old is Meek? Don't need him have faith in Weid as cover for Gawn and Grundy. I think pick 32 should be enough to get Grundy.

He's 24

[Nascent 9,336]

19 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I doubt they will get the dog's first pick for Lobb even if they throw in Logue.

Freo will probably be bottom end of the 8 next year so their 2020 first will be in the 11-13 range so not a lot of diff with this year's dog's first.  mfc is pragmatic and will to the deal that gets us the player's picks we want.  If we want Meek we may give them a 3rd round pick back with the two firsts. 

Of course if we take Grundy, Pies will be pushing for one of those first round picks.

Only way I can see them getting the dogs first rounder is with their future first + Lobb. Even then I would think that unlikely.

[WERRIDEE 5,601]

1 minute ago, Nascent said:

Only way I can see them getting the dogs first rounder is with their future first + Lobb. Even then I would think that unlikely.

I think it's likely.

[WERRIDEE 5,601]

3 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

He's 24

Too old for a developing ruckman

[rpfc 28,966]

15 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

How old is Meek? Don't need him have faith in Weid as cover for Gawn and Grundy. I think pick 32 should be enough to get Grundy.

Yeah, I wouldn’t put him in your 22 just yet…

[WERRIDEE 5,601]

6 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Yeah, I wouldn’t put him in your 22 just yet…

I wouldn't put him into our best 44

[WERRIDEE 5,601]

I really like the thought of getting pick 11 and 13 and Grundy will really set us up for the future.

[Redleg 42,048]

20 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I really like the thought of getting pick 11 and 13 and Grundy will really set us up for the future.

And Treacy.
Give up a pick 3 Premiership Rising Star at 21years old for 11 and 13?

NO.

I would be happy with Treacy, the Cadman pick needed and Meek/or a later first rounder.

Edited September 11, 2022 by Redleg

[WERRIDEE 5,601]

15 minutes ago, Redleg said:

And Treacy.
Give up a pick 3 Premiership Rising Star at 21years old for 11 and 13?

NO.

I would be happy with Treacy, the Cadman pick needed and Meek/or a later first rounder.

I'd be interested in Treacy. I don't know much about him. Meek not interested.

[Lucifers Hero 40,564]

19 minutes ago, Redleg said:

And Treacy.
Give up a pick 3 Premiership Rising Star at 21years old for 11 and 13?

NO.

I would be happy with Treacy, the Cadman pick needed and Meek/or a later first rounder.

GWS might do their pick 3 for 11 and 13 to get us Cadman.  They will be drowning in first round (and later) picks after the Hopper, Taranto, Hill and Bruhn trades and not many noises of who they might get in to replace them.  As it is they have 3, 21, 39 etc

But if the club wants Grundy I can't see how we get a high enough pick for Cadman.  Anyway will WCE take at pick 2 to replace Kennedy...

Edited September 11, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[Little Richard 6,265]

3 hours ago, BDA said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Freo regress next year and miss finals so their future first may will be a top 10 pick. They've a similar system to us and a similarly dysfunctional forward line. Dogga won't solve that for them. The game has moved on from overly defensive game plan

I reckon this years and next years first rounder gets it done

Agreed, Mundy alone will be an impossible gap for them to fill, on and off the field.

[alpha33 327]

I’m reading that “GWS will ask Richmond for a trade deal that includes two first rounders for Jacob Hopper.” If that’s what Hopper’s worth, what price Jackson?

[djr 1,605]

I have a strong feeling that LJ might stay given comments by Gerard Healy and word coming out of Perth. That said, Goodwindees believes its a done deal that he is going.

Edited September 11, 2022 by djr