Only 3 players across two teams. 

 

 

 

What terrible teams, feel like we could beat either one

Geez they are pretty average.  I guess stats will say whatever you want them to.

18 minutes ago, Swooper1987 said:

Geez they are pretty average.  I guess stats will say whatever you want them to.

The matter of stats website has us as premiership favourites with a 30% probability of winning. I’ll take that!

And those teams right there show why a champion team will always beat a team of champions.

Doesn't seem any more insightful than if you got a few random people sitting around a table talking it out.

The trouble is the weighting of the stats according to position - which is done on the basis of a few people sitting around a table talking it out!

Nic Nat AND Tom Hickey over Gawn is a good example. There's no doubt that Naitanui and Hickey have both excelled at the ruck-specific duties with hitouts to advantage or clearances and so on, but Gawn has them both covered for other areas of performance including marks, contested marks, marks inside 50, intercept marks, intercepts total, meters gained, rebound 50s, and even the simple fact of being on the ground 90% of the time denying opposition long kicks or drawing an opposition defender.  You wouldn't swap Gawn out for either of them.

It'll probably also keep Luke Jackson out of some statistically determined teams, too. Assuming he carries on his current trajectory, he will (statistically) be an excellent ruck, excellent key forward and excellent half-forward/utility, but not be the 'best' in any specific one of those positions.

Statistics are dumb because people are dumb and then they put things in numbers and forget that they were dumb back when they did it.

Zero % of experts thought we wouldn’t even make finals based on stats

bah!

Just goes to show how meaningless statistics can be.  No Steven May in either team makes the whole rating thingo a joke.

Are they serious with the backline of the second team 😲

Never understood why people get so triggered by Champion Data. Their job is to to create, collect and provide stats. They do a bloody good job if it really, but some seem to think they 'get it wrong' or have no idea, but numbers don't lie, it's the context people don't get. They're just doing the stats and providing numerical analysis based on the stats.

 

12 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Never understood why people get so triggered by Champion Data. Their job is to to create, collect and provide stats. They do a bloody good job if it really, but some seem to think they 'get it wrong' or have no idea, but numbers don't lie, it's the context people don't get. They're just doing the stats and providing numerical analysis based on the stats.

 

You’re the one getting triggered. 
 

Others are only providing an opinion. 

Edited August 26, 20214 yr by McQueen