As far as Carlton being an up and coming team, I'll believe it when i see it

Carlton are the team that most remind me of Melbourne in terms of playing badly but having a decent list.

Williams can definitely play through the midfield, but he’s clearly not fully fit. I was keen on him when trade came up - as he is quick and a beautiful kick. 

If they get a good coach who can get them playing to full potential,  they can jump up the ladder quickly. 
 

In the meantime I’ll continue to enjoy watching them underachieve.

 

 

3 hours ago, maximum bob said:

Re the Collingwood coaching appointment. The name that keeps bobbing up in the media (as a side-bar admittedly), as a strong candidate, is Adam Kingsley. He's currently at Richmond and well regarded. As an aside, I'd think Collingwood would be the last place Clarkson would want to end up. 

Been mentioned in the media that Clarko had a falling out with Graham Wright about the time he left Hawthorn and Clarko being Clarko it's unlikely that he ends up working with Wright again. 

 

I think Goodwins comments reflect two things. One is that he wants his assistants to know they are highly valued by signalling he expects them to stick it out until the job is done. The other is that with the current soft cap restrictions there isn’t enough coaching staff on the books to cover the loss of a senior assistant, so the club would be more compelled to play hardball in terms of holding them to  a contract until at least the end of the season. 

3 hours ago, rjay said:

Sometimes you have to take a deeper look. Who expected us to be where we are?

They've had issues but a list that has Walsh in the middle, Weitering as a KPD and McKay as KPF is a pretty good start.

They don't need to rely on Cripps any more.

They're well set to really move next season, they could even play finals this year. Well ahead of Freo and I think better balance at the moment than EFC but EFC are also coming...I don't think Freo are.

 

I’ve had a good look at their list. 
no doubt the 3 you list are stars but their midfield depth is poor after that. They need to recruit at least two quality mids to be talking finals. 

Freo have been crippled by injuries all year. I’d prefer their list over the blues

no mention of either in this article: 
 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/651362

2 hours ago, A F said:

You're talking about Dow? I don't rate him, but each to their own. 

Yep, agreed, I'm most worried about them. More so than the Dogs, who haven't really changed their game plan significantly in 5 years.

What worries me with the Dogs is the talent they have been able to bring in with the academy and their next father/son...it sets them up with minimal cost pick wise.

As for the Blues, Dow seems to have turned the corner a bit, not to Parish levels but he's still young enough to give them something. If they get Curnow back and firing they will really threaten, even without him I reckon they are well set.

12 minutes ago, rjay said:

What worries me with the Dogs is the talent they have been able to bring in with the academy and their next father/son...it sets them up with minimal cost pick wise.

As for the Blues, Dow seems to have turned the corner a bit, not to Parish levels but he's still young enough to give them something. If they get Curnow back and firing they will really threaten, even without him I reckon they are well set.

I do question their ceiling if Curnow doesn't get on the park, but as we've seen with our list (and Richmond's on a greater scale), providing you've got good role players around the stars, the rest can click.

39 minutes ago, A F said:

I do question their ceiling if Curnow doesn't get on the park, but as we've seen with our list (and Richmond's on a greater scale), providing you've got good role players around the stars, the rest can click.

I also wonder how Curnow will be if/when he gets back on the park.

We've seen players like O'Meara who looked like being one of the greats cruelled by injury.

He's still a good player but nowhere near where he was headed in his first few years.

7 minutes ago, rjay said:

I also wonder how Curnow will be if/when he gets back on the park.

We've seen players like O'Meara who looked like being one of the greats cruelled by injury.

He's still a good player but nowhere near where he was headed in his first few years.

It's early days yet, but Rowell could be another.

1 hour ago, A F said:

It's early days yet, but Rowell could be another.

Was thinking that 'A F'...he's certainly not been the same as the player who exploded on the scene.

Still plenty of time for him but sometimes the expectations don't match the reality.

Most only remember Trengove post injury & the comparisons with Martin don't help, but he was a seriously good player when he first arrived here.

It takes serious talent & a lot of luck to be Dustin Martin.

15 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Remember “They Know We’re Coming” from about 10 years ago? I’m sure they’re still coming; just taking their sweet time about it. ?

Many fantastic memes out of that one ?

19 hours ago, maximum bob said:

Re the Collingwood coaching appointment. The name that keeps bobbing up in the media (as a side-bar admittedly), as a strong candidate, is Adam Kingsley. He's currently at Richmond and well regarded. As an aside, I'd think Collingwood would be the last place Clarkson would want to end up. 

Brad Scott still in the race.

19 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

If you hear the whole thing properly in context it doesn't say that at all.

Worth listening to before panicking.

Goody Presser 21/7

 

Ok got it, really would expect both to continue at Dees next year ?

7 hours ago, Luther said:

Many fantastic memes out of that one ?

"Can you smell what the Blues are cooking?" was my fav from 2010

 

 

Yze and Chocs currency is declining every week.

Is Yze midfield coach? We apparently have the best ruckman in the league and still lose the clearances. 

The Bont gets another 3 votes and we didn’t have a plan?

Where is Chocs influence when we drew with Hawks and lost to Crows, Giants and Pies?