Kangas go down after a 50 metre penalty is given as 40

[occo 2]

Shannon Grant was given a 50 against shaw but was put ont forward square. Hit the post and collingwood won. Shocking mistake by the ump...no forgiving him and he should never ump again

[Oxxx 0]

Still, if you can't kick a goal from 15m out straight in front then you don't deserve to win. The angle that he ran into goal looked akward and then the kick was very arrogant.

[Hards 2]

Shouldn't excuse the umpires mistake though.

Infact the umpiring for the entire game was woeful.

This holding the ball thing is ridiculous - perhaps the umpires have been instructed to do it this way to take the focus of the hands in the back rule. Two wrongs make a right according to the AFL.

[occo 2]

Still, if you can't kick a goal from 15m out straight in front then you don't deserve to win. The angle that he ran into goal looked akward and then the kick was very arrogant.

Ok take it for example that it was Melb v Coll and Neitz with the ball. He hits the post. Surely u would be fuming and there is NO excuse. Doesent take rocket science to realise if ur on the 50 metre line and 50 then its on gopal line. After all 50 - 50 = 0 doesent it?

[demonfanjezza 1]

Shouldn't excuse the umpires mistake though.

Infact the umpiring for the entire game was woeful.

Yep, I agree-- new rules dont make much sense

[beelzebub 22,269]

kangas were robbed...simple as that... the filth would be grinnig from ear to ear.

[Oxxx 0]

Ok take it for example that it was Melb v Coll and Neitz with the ball. He hits the post. Surely u would be fuming and there is NO excuse. Doesent take rocket science to realise if ur on the 50 metre line and 50 then its on gopal line. After all 50 - 50 = 0 doesent it?

I'm not saying that the umpiring decision was correct - I do agree that he should have been on the goal line. However, if you can't kick a goal from 10m out then you get no sympathy from me.

And with the hands in the back rule, how come only ever give it to full-forwards and never to backmen? Also, notice that some forwards will give up on the final couple of steps when making a lead, so that the backman crashes into him on momentum and then he falls forward so he gets the free kick. I saw Gehrig do this a few times on Friday night & Fevola milked that technique dry during the preseason.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

What aload of hogwash about the Kangas.

They got a soft 50 metre penalty that put them 15 metres out and they could not kick the goal.

Shannon Grant. What an embarrassment. Hang your head in shame.

The distance of the penalty should have been made redundant by kicking the most obvious of goals.

What a joke.

[beelzebub 22,269]

I disagree... the penalty should have been on the goal line...almost imposible to miss... Grant should never have had the opportunity to miss.. should have been a gimme !!

you would have different sentiments I'm sure had it been the Dees !!

[pantaloons 2,019]

I'm always up for a good dose of maggot-bashing, but in this case surely Shannon Grant has to bear the burden of costing his team the match. I doubt very much whether Grant is sitting at home right now thinking "I can't believe the white maggot only sent me to kick from 11 metres out rather than two." He'll be livid with himself for costing his team the game and blowing a golden opportunity for a rare 2007 win and a bright spot in what shapes as a disastrous year for the club. Sure, the umpire made a mistake, but his miss was unforgivable - its almost harder to miss from there than to score a goal. If you can do the impossible and hit the post from 11 metres out, he may have slammed the ball into the man on the mark from two paces.

[beelzebub 22,269]

yes Grant kicked the shocker..but is he to blame.. no way.. he should never have been there.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

yes Grant kicked the shocker..but is he to blame.. no way.. he should never have been there.

Cut it out Bub.

Shannon Grant a 200 game premiership footballer. Stands 15 metres out. Hardly an angle and hits the post and he is not to blame....Hmmmm.

The Kangas robbed themselves by kicking another 18 behinds earlier in the game.

They had the Pies on toast and let them off on the scoreboard.

Grant just epitomised the Kangas on the day. Wasteful.

[occo 2]

Cut it out Bub.

Shannon Grant a 200 game premiership footballer. Stands 15 metres out. Hardly an angle and hits the post and he is not to blame....Hmmmm.

The Kangas robbed themselves by kicking another 18 behinds earlier in the game.

They had the Pies on toast and let them off on the scoreboard.

Grant just epitomised the Kangas on the day. Wasteful.

Thats not the argument. There should have been no choice.You wouldnt have said that if it was melb playing and neitz hit the post would u

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Thats not the argument. There should have been no choice.You wouldnt have said that if it was melb playing and neitz hit the post would u

It should have been a redundant issue for the following reasons:

1. A 200 game premiership former AA player should never miss a shot from 15 metres. Never

2. How can a team that controlled the game kick 19 behinds and half as many goals?

I would say the same thing about MFC. Collingwood should never, repeat never have got a sniff of a win.

Back Neitz $100 to kick from 15 metres every time.

Nothing like blaming the umpire for an error in the final seconds of the game when you have proceeded to stuff up the match over the previous four quarters.

[occo 2]

It should have been a redundant issue for the following reasons:

1. A 200 game premiership former AA player should never miss a shot from 15 metres. Never

2. How can a team that controlled the game kick 19 behinds and half as many goals?

I would say the same thing about MFC. Collingwood should never, repeat never have got a sniff of a win.

Back Neitz $100 to kick from 15 metres every time.

Nothing like blaming the umpire for an error in the final seconds of the game when you have proceeded to stuff up the match over the previous four quarters.

Ok u must not see my point so ill give up

[BrownlowBruce 1]

How is it Grants Fault.... he couldnt take his kick from 45m because heath shaw was standing 15 m over the marks... the ump blew his whistle and clearly pointed where shaw HAD to be standing if he was on the original mark.

50-50 = 0 yep

more like 45-50= -5

he should have been takin the kick from the grandstand on no ANGLE at all!

saying they kicked to many points doesnt make a difference... they got robbed by unconsistant umpring.

Umpring is ruining football.... the rules are crap this year and so are the umpires

as for a stat from friday nights game

FREE KICKS RESULTING DIRRECTLY IN GOALS

Melb - 0 Saints -5

[beelzebub 22,269]

i'm with ya occo.. alas !! lol

[occo 2]

At the end of the day there should be no argument about him kicking the post as he should have been given the 50. It was a 50 metre as the ball was not released by Shaw. We should not even be arguing the fact he hit the post. As i said 50 - 50 = 0.

I am 100% that thoes on Collingwoods side would not be thinking the same if Melb had lost the game for the same reason. In fact ill put my life savings on it

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I am glad the Kangas can justifiable rant and rave that the Umpire lost them the game.

Gutless and spineless. What a joke.

[Oxxx 0]

Thats not the argument. There should have been no choice.You wouldnt have said that if it was melb playing and neitz hit the post would u

If Neitz hit the post from 10m out I would want him dropped until he learnt how to kick straight.