On 10/1/2020 at 9:24 PM, dee-tox said:

Thought he had a good season. There were no headless chook runs this season. One-on-one was very good and used the short kick to advantage. He and Sicily combined well. Amazing what proper coaching can do.

Presumably that includes game plan.

On 10/2/2020 at 11:14 AM, Wobbly Bob said:

So one minute you say we're going backwards and the next you concede we're going forward.

Sounds like you don't know whether Melbourne or yourself are coming or going.

Sounds like the hotel quarantine enquiry. 

On 10/4/2020 at 8:29 AM, Lucifer's Hero said:

Tell that to all our BnF winners and place getters when we sitting at or near the bottom of the ladder for most of this century.

Sam was voted one of Hawks' three 'Most Valuable Players' by team mates.  That is a pretty good accolade.  He must be doing a lot right.

I wasn't giving our BnF winners from poor teams a back hander, just giving some context to Melbourne finishing to 9th compared to Hawthorn finishing 17th. Hibbo and Lever finished 9th and 11th, would you put Frost above them in votes?

We were lacking a Half-Back or 2 this year, Smith and Harmes were not great, but hoping we have that sorted next season. 

an interesting point raised early in the thread of a chaotic style.  Coaches always talk about i just want players to play their role - e.g. consistent and play within set parameters.  Chaotic styles wouldnt seem to mesh with this.  Still i did miss the chaos Frosty attack on the footy, although are we any worse off for not having it.

On 10/4/2020 at 7:59 AM, Lucifer's Hero said:

Tell that to all our BnF winners and place getters when we sitting at or near the bottom of the ladder for most of this century.

Sam was voted one of Hawks' three 'Most Valuable Players' by team mates.  That is a pretty good accolade.  He must be doing a lot right.

Sone of us always knew - from what we saw over time - that he was going to be an adept player. Onyer, Frosty.

Congrats to Frost but him finishing in their bnf votes (I read he finished 8th not 7th btw) doesn't mean much to me. If you compare their top 8 vote winners to ours you'll see a difference in caliber of players. 

The bottom line was Frost wanted more opportunity as a best 22 backman. I don't believe he would have found that had he stayed at Melbourne. I don't think we missed him this year with the backline performing strongly and consistently most of the year.

Oscar played 7 times this year yes but I feel it was mostly due to matchups or injuries to other players. Oscar will now be most likely going elsewhere in similar fashion. The makeup of our backline clearly has some set structure and Frost wasn't going to be a part of it, at least not full time. Mid sized players like Hibberd, Smith, Rivers seem more likely to get a spot alongside the two talls. Tomlinson has become an adequate third tall and looks like he might settle there with his versatility to move up the ground a nice addition up Goodwins sleeve. There's a chance Petty and maybe even Brown could be used as our tall back depth next season as well especially if we're looking to bring in another tall forward.

Glad Frost found a home but not missing the thrill/anxiety of the Frost ball.

Wasn’t it lovely to see Whorethorn down near the bottom of the ladder and that smug Frawley and that dollar-chasing $cully in the team, with Frawley turning it over and looking slow like he was with us. Now that the elite players in the team have gone or are past it Frawley looks like the Frawley of old. Frost had a few good games though!

List Management.

When you have more than one thing you can trade one out.

Player/s in contract stay. Out of contract player is traded.

Draft pick in.

 

On 10/1/2020 at 1:06 PM, picket fence said:

In my view this result  vindicates the "Blunder" of letting him go when we did. I saw enough of him in HAWKS games to say that his "Percieved"  deficiencies have been eradicated to a greater degree and he played some good solid football. Its interesting to see what coaches that know how to get the best out of players do so. I reckon though, that Sam Frost will continue to improve not dissimilar to Bachar Houli when he went from Essendon to Richmond. If that happens then the blunder in letting him go will be even more pronounced and damning. I  Was disappointed to see him leave Melbourne and even more so now!

 

Dean Terlich 3rd in Demons BNF

Where did the little rat Scully finish?

12 minutes ago, Pink Freud said:

Where did the little rat Scully finish?

If he finished in the top 10 they are in real trouble, they thought they where getting a gun for free, instead they got a dud for too much.

Lol. Should we start a thread on Dean Kent's BnF finish too?

On 10/1/2020 at 1:06 PM, picket fence said:

In my view this result  vindicates the "Blunder" of letting him go when we did. I saw enough of him in HAWKS games to say that his "Percieved"  deficiencies have been eradicated to a greater degree and he played some good solid football. Its interesting to see what coaches that know how to get the best out of players do so. I reckon though, that Sam Frost will continue to improve not dissimilar to Bachar Houli when he went from Essendon to Richmond. If that happens then the blunder in letting him go will be even more pronounced and damning. I  Was disappointed to see him leave Melbourne and even more so now!

So were many others like myself. What makes it hard is his position was  taken by Joel Smith  now isn't  that  a joke.

We won't make finals with Joel in the side if he is in our best 22. FFS.

Anyone who rates him doesn't know much about the game and that goes for the coach as well..

My cat watches the footy and when he sees him on TV he hisses at him.

 

 

Edited October 26, 20205 yr by nosoupforme