7 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

The coach seems to think he is doing his role, only one that matters really

It's only on here that the notion he is struggling appears

Demonland needs a weekly target to lock onto, otherwise there is no opportunity for some posters to contribute, as they thrive on negativity

Then the coach has low expectations of a key fwd, but I’m sure as you’ve asked him then you know all. 
 

You love to roll out “it’s my opinion, deal with it” but jump on others for having their own opinion. 

4 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

What I would give to have The Ox, Neitz and Lyon playing for us now. They would dominate. 

Of course this is just my opinion, and we all know opinions are neither right nor wrong. Toot toot, old chaps. 

But your opinion is not mine so it’s wrong and I’ve asked all the people I follow around and they form my opinion so neeerrr. 

46 minutes ago, faultydet said:

The level of arrogance from such a low info base as yourself is staggering. James Hird has a rival in the narcissism stakes.

The opinion that said players wouldn’t be good enough is just plain wrong and frankly laughable. Nobody who saw them play and understood the game would think that...a clear lack of understanding of the game

On 6/22/2020 at 3:08 PM, Satyriconhome said:

Purely from the two way running and defensive capabilities, the game has moved on

 

And if they played now they would play for the times.   You dont just lose your footballing ability if you get transported to another era.  If you are a star at Aussie Rules, you are a star.     Whether your name is Ablett, Blight, Carey, Lockett, Neitz, Hird, Buckley, Fyfe, Kernahan,  Voss, Glendinning, Barassi,  etc etc...  those types of elite talent would dominate any era.

Youre not making much sense.

Edited June 23, 20204 yr by TheKozzieExperience

1 hour ago, faultydet said:

The level of arrogance from such a low info base as yourself is staggering. James Hird has a rival in the narcissism stakes.

Sorry, 'a low info base' something you buy in a pack from IKEA?

Just putting an opinion, you don't have to like or agree with it, I am sure my self esteem could handle it, just don't read it

I am more interested in whether any player not picked against Essendon, did enough in the practice match, to warrant selection against Geelong

 

 

49 minutes ago, TheKozzieExperience said:

And if they played now they would play for the times.   You dont just lose your footballing ability if you get transported to another era.  If you are a star at Aussie Rules, you are a star.     Whether your name is Ablett, Blight, Carey, Lockett, Neitz, Hird, Buckley, Fyfe, Kernahan,  Voss, Glendinning, Barassi,  etc etc...  those types of elite talent would dominate any era.

Youre not making much sense.

Fine, your opinion, I disagree

p.s. in case you haven't noticed Fyfe is still playing in this era, also which Ablett?

1 hour ago, The Swimming Dee said:

The opinion that said players wouldn’t be good enough is just plain wrong and frankly laughable. Nobody who saw them play and understood the game would think that...a clear lack of understanding of the game

An opinion is neither right or wrong, not sure which part of that, the opinion makers on here don't get

You can disagree

Been playing and watching footy for 43 years now, so have a pretty good understanding and saw the players play

Unfortunately my opinion, formed by not only watching but listening to ex players, particularly ordinary ones like Leigh Matthews, having the same opinion as I do, does not line up with the herd mentality opinion, that usually rules on forums, so it is belittled or just stated as plain wrong

 

11 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Fine, your opinion, I disagree

p.s. in case you haven't noticed Fyfe is still playing in this era, also which Ablett?

Yes Fyfe is playing in this era.  And he would dominate any era.

Both Abletts.

8 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

An opinion is neither right or wrong, not sure which part of that, the opinion makers on here don't get

You can disagree

Been playing and watching footy for 43 years now, so have a pretty good understanding and saw the players play

Unfortunately my opinion, formed by not only watching but listening to ex players, particularly ordinary ones like Leigh Matthews, having the same opinion as I do, does not line up with the herd mentality opinion, that usually rules on forums, so it is belittled or just stated as plain wrong

 

Leigh Matthews wouldn’t get a game today. All his behind the play king hits would be captured on 4k Cameras. 
Remind him of that next time you see him for a chat old Chap...

12 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Leigh Matthews wouldn’t get a game today. All his behind the play king hits would be captured on 4k Cameras. 
Remind him of that next time you see him for a chat old Chap...

I think he'd get a game. He'd just have to play differently.

And while I'm not defending his approach, he was doing what he was allowed to do by the rules in place at the time. The administration of the game then was more problematic than the actions of any individual. That's both in relation to the physical as well as psychological aspects of the game (using the word "psychological" possibly incorrectly, but attempting to address things like racial abuse.)

13 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I think he'd get a game. He'd just have to play differently.

And while I'm not defending his approach, he was doing what he was allowed to do by the rules in place at the time. The administration of the game then was more problematic than the actions of any individual. That's both in relation to the physical as well as psychological aspects of the game (using the word "psychological" possibly incorrectly, but attempting to address things like racial abuse.)

No. He played with true White Line Fever. Have heard him say it. 
Like Mal Brown. He lined people up and took them out. 
not all players were thugs back then, but those 2 were

11 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

No. He played with true White Line Fever. Have heard him say it. 
Like Mal Brown. He lined people up and took them out. 
not all players were thugs back then, but those 2 were

You really think Matthews wouldn't have modified the way he played if he had been required to do so? Apart from the flaws you refer to, I think he's the best player I've ever seen (excluding those for whom I only saw the tail ends of their careers, such as Whitten, Polly Farmer, Barassi, Skilton etc). I think with that talent, he would have changed the way he approached the game to ensure he could continue to play.

Mal Brown I'm not so sure. I suspect his VFL career was very brief, in part, because he couldn't change.

 

 

6 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

You really think Matthews wouldn't have modified the way he played if he had been required to do so? Apart from the flaws you refer to, I think he's the best player I've ever seen (excluding those for whom I only saw the tail ends of their careers, such as Whitten, Polly Farmer, Barassi, Skilton etc). I think with that talent, he would have changed the way he approached the game to ensure he could continue to play.

Mal Brown I'm not so sure. I suspect his VFL career was very brief, in part, because he couldn't change.

 

 

He might have tried, but a young Matthews was a thug on the field

Leopards and Spots for me

Steven Smith still gets headaches 40 years later...

2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I think he'd get a game. He'd just have to play differently.

And while I'm not defending his approach, he was doing what he was allowed to do by the rules in place at the time. The administration of the game then was more problematic than the actions of any individual. That's both in relation to the physical as well as psychological aspects of the game (using the word "psychological" possibly incorrectly, but attempting to address things like racial abuse.)

While Lethal is my number 1 player over the last 50 years, he was a thug, who would king hit from behind, when he went after a player probably because he wasn't having a great day. No, the rules did not allow him to do that.

My favourite player in the same period and also most talented was the great Robbie. Top footballer and top bloke. Sadly missed.

27 minutes ago, Redleg said:

While Lethal is my number 1 player over the last 50 years, he was a thug, who would king hit from behind, when he went after a player probably because he wasn't having a great day. No, the rules did not allow him to do that.

My favourite player in the same period and also most talented was the great Robbie. Top footballer and top bloke. Sadly missed.

I should rephrase what I meant. The enforcement of the rules was different then. Players were able to get away with actions which today they would not, partly because of technology (more and better cameras today) and partly because of an attitude difference where thuggery was (comparatively) tolerated. All I'm saying is that if the rules in his playing day were enforced the way they were today, he would adapt and still likely be the best player of his generation.

20 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Then the coach has low expectations of a key fwd, but I’m sure as you’ve asked him then you know all. 
 

You love to roll out “it’s my opinion, deal with it” but jump on others for having their own opinion. 

On 6/23/2020 at 2:30 PM, binman said:

Indeed.

And the problem Goody faces if not TMac then who?

Weed is the obvious one but seems out of favor. Brown is not big enough to play the key forward role we need TMac to play. And with Petty injured there literally is no one else who can fill the power forward role.

Unless Goody decides to troll Demonland and replaces TMac with OMac.. 

I think Brown is big enough, but is he good enough.?

 

On 6/23/2020 at 4:04 PM, Earl Hood said:

I think the only MFC KPF star of yesteryear that would struggle today would be Jakovich. More than enough talent but he had attitude issues, didn’t like training all that much, wasn’t overly fit and was a free spirit who would not have liked being put in a straight jacket with all of today’s team rules and coaching. 

He did play well in the practice match. Had he kicked decently v WC it would have been much closer

23 hours ago, The Swimming Dee said:

The opinion that said players wouldn’t be good enough is just plain wrong and frankly laughable. Nobody who saw them play and understood the game would think that...a clear lack of understanding of the game

Spot on. The trolls ‘opinion’ on this matter is a testable assertion therefore it can be right or wrong. 

Edited June 24, 20204 yr by Ethan Tremblay