MFC needs own VFL side

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Totally agree. An upgrade is well overdue. I see moving to Casey Fields as very much a “buy cheap, buy twice” scenario though. 

Yeah, look I'm not keen on it personally, I just it as a viable solution. In saying that, it would only be if (as mentioned above) it was developed into an actual stadium with legitimate elite facilities, with a big financial backing from state government and local council.

[Diamond_Jim 12,718]

10 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Totally agree. An upgrade is well overdue. I see moving to Casey Fields as very much a “buy cheap, buy twice” scenario though. 

Interesting as I see the move to Gosch's as being exactly what you describe. In ten years the big teams will all have dedicated super facilities. What is a super facility...indoor training facility, two ovals one being MCG size the other convertible to match all other ovals, pools and gyms etc etc.

Collingwood are on the lookout to move and Richmond cannot be far behind. Carlton is an interesting one as they have the Princes Park reserve but talk about resident issues !!!

[Mel Bourne 4,537]

12 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Interesting as I see the move to Gosch's as being exactly what you describe. In ten years the big teams will all have dedicated super facilities. What is a super facility...indoor training facility, two ovals one being MCG size the other convertible to match all other ovals, pools and gyms etc etc.

Collingwood are on the lookout to move and Richmond cannot be far behind. Carlton is an interesting one as they have the Princes Park reserve but talk about resident issues !!!

Sure. Let’s not do it again then! 

[george_on_the_outer 7,855]

36 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Totally agree. An upgrade is well overdue. I see moving to Casey Fields as very much a “buy cheap, buy twice” scenario though. 

Correct.  Hawthorn are moving to Dingley because they know what will be needed in 10 years not 1 or 2.  Essendon have set the standard.  Aircraft hanger sized indoor facilities.  Swimming pools.  2 AFL sized ovals. 

Other posters have forgotten that a stand alone VFL side needs a ground to PLAY on as well.  No point having a VFL side if they have to play at Punt road/Collingwood/Victoria Park, while training at AAMI....simply pointless.

The other point made many years ago that is the advantage of Casey/Box Hill type arrangements is the human infrastructure.  Trainers, goal attendants, scorers, massagers, time-keepers, property stewards, door-keepers are all essentially volunteers.  Run your own show, then you have to pay people to do it.

Edited September 23, 2019 by george_on_the_outer

[Demon Dynasty 17,135]

54 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Correct.  Hawthorn are moving to Dingley because they know what will be needed in 10 years not 1 or 2.  Essendon have set the standard.  Aircraft hanger sized indoor facilities.  Swimming pools.  2 AFL sized ovals. 

Other posters have forgotten that a stand alone VFL side needs a ground to PLAY on as well.  No point having a VFL side if they have to play at Punt road/Collingwood/Victoria Park, while training at AAMI....simply pointless.

The other point made many years ago that is the advantage of Casey/Box Hill type arrangements is the human infrastructure.  Trainers, goal attendants, scorers, massagers, time-keepers, property stewards, door-keepers are all essentially volunteers.  Run your own show, then you have to pay people to do it.

Can you see us investing in and moving that far away from the G though George?  What would the 12,000ish MCC members say?

[chookrat 4,268]

21 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Wasn't saying they were all comparable from a geographic point of view. Just saying that those teams don't train in their actual suburbs, let alone near the CBD or the MCG.

As I said though, my opinion is players would rather drive 40 minutes than 10 if it means they get actual elite facilities. Just my opinion though, haven't done a survey or anything.

Plus, being a professional organization who wins games would be more deisrable than just a great location, otherwise GWS and GC's situations would be reversed.

Casey is at least 4 hours drive from Gotches paddock. Similar travel time to Geelong. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

3 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Casey is at least 4 hours drive from Gotches paddock. Similar travel time to Geelong. 

What? Are you from Melbourne mate?

This is from google maps:

 

[chookrat 4,268]

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

What? Are you from Melbourne mate?

This is from google maps:

 

What is an M1?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, chookrat said:

What is an M1?

Ahhhh I get it. Silly me hey, still getting to know who the trolls are.

 

[chookrat 4,268]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

Ahhhh I get it. Silly me hey, still getting to know who the trolls are.

 

I'm not a troll, I am an idiot. There is a difference ? 

[monoccular 17,697]

12 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Did not work for  the saints at frankston,  they have state of the art facilities down there but have  abandoned those facilities to go back to Moorabbin stating that the drive was the Factor no one wanted to drive down there no matter how good they were.

Chicken Wing Chri$$$ Judd says hi!

[defuture15 902]

Any chance at Bentleigh?

Resident issue there as well?

[Diamond_Jim 12,718]

Collingwood = Whittlesea/Mernda

[deebug 1,754]

If Collingwood do move, it would free up space, and we could also use Gosch paddock.