Brad Hill

[Kent 2,909]

I not as much interested in Hill or Bennell but who we are going after to fill our KPF vacancy?

I am not hearing much other than J Jenkins who just had fisticuffs with his coach apparently and I have never rated.

Surely there are other candidates.

[Demon3 2,541]

So we have Pick 2 and pick 21ish .. is the best case scenario for us Anderson then Langdon, and also maybe trying to get another pick somewhere in the second round?

[Lord Nev 13,512]

10 minutes ago, Kent said:

I not as much interested in Hill or Bennell but who we are going after to fill our KPF vacancy?

I am not hearing much other than J Jenkins who just had fisticuffs with his coach apparently and I have never rated.

Surely there are other candidates.

Not sure if I'd label it a vacancy as such, but more a need for quality depth maybe?

Looking at our list demographic talent-wise, my guess would be we'd need to either draft or free agent a KPF. I haven't kept a close eye on the draft this year as I didn't think I'd need to (classic Melbourne), but as far as free agent KPF options go there's:

Levi Casboult. Adam Tomlinson (probably more wing, but could play KPF). Justin Westhoff. Ryan Schoenmakers.

That's going by the most recent list I could find anyway. Not a lot to choose from, but one of those could be ok. I'm sure there's other FA options that I haven't seen or don't know much about though.

[Kent 2,909]

20 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Not sure if I'd label it a vacancy as such, but more a need for quality depth maybe?

Looking at our list demographic talent-wise, my guess would be we'd need to either draft or free agent a KPF. I haven't kept a close eye on the draft this year as I didn't think I'd need to (classic Melbourne), but as far as free agent KPF options go there's:

Levi Casboult. Adam Tomlinson (probably more wing, but could play KPF). Justin Westhoff. Ryan Schoenmakers.

That's going by the most recent list I could find anyway. Not a lot to choose from, but one of those could be ok. I'm sure there's other FA options that I haven't seen or don't know much about though.

so who then is our main man?

SW who cant hold his place  and is still developing  or TMac who really is  a second tall who struggles against the best defenders

Surely we need a key forward who can mark  contest and Kick goals regularly

This year has shown me that we certainly have a vacancy

 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

18 minutes ago, Kent said:

so who then is our main man?

SW who cant hold his place  and is still developing  or TMac who really is  a second tall who struggles against the best defenders

Surely we need a key forward who can mark  contest and Kick goals regularly

This year has shown me that we certainly have a vacancy

I still believe TMac and Weid can be our main men up forward. Both have had horror years carrying existing injuries and then copping more. Not saying they will be the best combo in the league, but with full fitness and better delivery from a tweaked game plan and more outside players will make a big difference to their effectiveness. I'm all for us adding to our key forward stocks, I just don't think we need to chase a high-priced star to make it work well enough for us to challenge.

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

Not sure if I'd label it a vacancy as such, but more a need for quality depth maybe?

Looking at our list demographic talent-wise, my guess would be we'd need to either draft or free agent a KPF. I haven't kept a close eye on the draft this year as I didn't think I'd need to (classic Melbourne), but as far as free agent KPF options go there's:

Levi Casboult. Adam Tomlinson (probably more wing, but could play KPF). Justin Westhoff. Ryan Schoenmakers.

That's going by the most recent list I could find anyway. Not a lot to choose from, but one of those could be ok. I'm sure there's other FA options that I haven't seen or don't know much about though.

we really just need extra depth for a year or 2. i reckon Weid is going to come through really strongly in that time. it's why i don't mind the idea of Roughy one year transition into coaching. even if he hardly played he could teach Tom and Sam about forward craft

[Lord Nev 13,512]

8 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

we really just need extra depth for a year or 2. i reckon Weid is going to come through really strongly in that time. it's why i don't mind the idea of Roughy one year transition into coaching. even if he hardly played he could teach Tom and Sam about forward craft

I love the idea of Roughy as a forwards coach, but reckon he's pretty much cooked playing wise. Guess it depends on what else happens with our list though I guess.

[Roost It 1,434]

Jenkins.....please NO

we need pace and class and pace and class and pace and class

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Third hand info, so take it as you will from an anonymous guy on the internet, but have heard we won't be getting Hill. Apparently the club rates the talent we can get with our first pick this year higher than Hill, and Freo are at the moment expecting a high first round pick.

 

[dazzledavey36 54,944]

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

Third hand info, so take it as you will from an anonymous guy on the internet, but have heard we won't be getting Hill. Apparently the club rates the talent we can get with our first pick this year higher than Hill, and Freo are at the moment expecting a high first round pick.

 

This makes me happy.

[olisik 4,060]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

This makes me happy.

Why happy? It means we don’t rate our list to push for a premiership and go for a top up with Hill. Means we are going back to the draft/drawing board.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

5 minutes ago, olisik said:

Why happy? It means we don’t rate our list to push for a premiership and go for a top up with Hill. Means we are going back to the draft/drawing board.

Or it means we're being reasonable about the relative cost of talent.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

41 minutes ago, olisik said:

Why happy? It means we don’t rate our list to push for a premiership and go for a top up with Hill. Means we are going back to the draft/drawing board.

Or it means the player we think will be there at pick 2 will be too good to trade away the pick for Hill.

Pretty simple really.

[olisik 4,060]

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Or it means the player we think will be there at pick 2 will be too good to trade away the pick for Hill.

Pretty simple really.

Pick 3*

[Moonshadow 17,676]

1 minute ago, olisik said:

Pick 3*

So you think. 

[olisik 4,060]

Personally I would like to see us draft Rowell at pick 2. Trade out Viney and try use what we get for him as leverage to get Hill in.

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

Skilled disposers of the footy ONLY.  

[Moonshadow 17,676]

25 minutes ago, olisik said:

Personally I would like to see us draft Rowell at pick 2. Trade out Viney and try use what we get for him as leverage to get Hill in.

I thought you said it was pick 3....

Hedging your bets?

[olisik 4,060]

18 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I thought you said it was pick 3....

Hedging your bets?

It most likely will be. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to see us get 2 and draft Rowell with it. Not that hard to understand is it

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

2020 MFC 1st round pick for

Brad Hill and 2019 Freo 3rd rounder (around pick 44). 

[olisik 4,060]

2 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

2020 MFC 1st round pick for

Brad Hill and 2019 Freo 3rd rounder (around pick 44). 

Hill isn’t worth pick 1

[spirit of norm smith 16,459]

Dees need pace. Dees need skills. Hill has both.  If we get Brad Hill, then Stephen Hill May also get convinced to come also as a free agent. That’s why paying a little overs. 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

23 minutes ago, olisik said:

It most likely will be. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t like to see us get 2 and draft Rowell with it. Not that hard to understand is it

Exactly.

*Anderson

[dazzledavey36 54,944]

2 hours ago, olisik said:

Why happy? It means we don’t rate our list to push for a premiership and go for a top up with Hill. Means we are going back to the draft/drawing board.

Push for premiership? Mate we are 5 to 7 years off contending at a grand final. Our list has many holes that needs to be regenerated by fresh talent.

Start that off by picking Noah Anderson who will be twice the player Brad Hill is.

[olisik 4,060]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Push for premiership? Mate we are 5 to 7 years off contending at a grand final. Our list has many holes that needs to be regenerated by fresh talent.

Start that off by picking Noah Anderson who will be twice the player Brad Hill is.

I think Ando will go pick 1